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Old 09-08-2010, 03:20 PM   #1
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A Pastor of a small church in north central Florida wants to burn about 200 copies of the Quran that have been sent to him (he says) by people from all over the world. He says this is an attempt to protest against radical Islam, but if he makes good on his threat will it backfire.

Rather than drawing attention to the ill's of Radical Islam will this act further inflame it? Will it put American and EU troops that make up the NATO mission in Afganistan at risk? American General Patraes, the commander of US Forces in Afganistan seems to think so. Is he correct or is he making a mountian out of a molehill?

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Old 09-08-2010, 04:48 PM   #2
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This Preacher is a charlatan and a crook who is only looking for publicity, according to his own daughter, he was kicked out of a church that he founded in Germany for dipping into the church's till to pay his own expenses. This church is shocked at his intentions to burn the Quran.

I agree with General Pertaeus that it could endanger our troops and the overall effort in Afghanistan and I agree with Hilary Clinton who said "It's regrettable that a pastor in Gainesville, Florida, with a church of no more than 50 people can make this outrageous and distressful, disgraceful plan, and get the world's attention"

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More killings because of religion will happen if this idiot is allowed to do this.

I wonder if he cheers every some doctor that performs abortions is murdered by some right wing extremest?
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Let's go burn bibles outside his church on the 11th. I want to see the outrage.
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Let's go burn bibles outside his church on the 11th. I want to see the outrage.
I'd have to quote that old saying "Two wrongs don't make a right" we should never let an idiot like this Pastor bring us down to his level. But I do understand the point that you're making.
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It always surprises me that every almost every religion universally teaches respect, tolerance and kindness to your fellow man....

Then this happens!

If more of these holy people practiced what they preached then maybe, just maybe the world could be a bit better.

Small men have always used region to make themselves more powerful.
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It always surprises me that every almost every religion universally teaches respect, tolerance and kindness to your fellow man....

Then this happens!

If more of these holy people practiced what they preached then maybe, just maybe the world could be a bit better.

Small men have always used region to make themselves more powerful.
Well said. I find it so hard to understand where they are coming from at times. This is one of those times.
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Old 09-10-2010, 01:27 AM   #8
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He'll fit right in with the people who made the "god hates fags" website.

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To be honest the thing that has really made me mad is not him so much, but those who seek to justify him by basically saying that as some sections of the Arab and Islamic population mistreat the Bible/ the US flag/ add whatever symble you want, then this is ok, as the good ol' USA is a free country boy blah blah blah and it is his right to do whatever he wants blah blah...

So they do not believe in the Christian virture of turn the other cheek, but the old testement 'eye for an eye'

And my heart goes out to the whole of the US this difficult day...
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At least rackspace shut his website down because he's such a fucking asshole. Not exactly their words but ... they did anyway.
And yes I hear you Pete. It's ok as far as some are concerned for this prick to burn the quran and offend millions of people but it's not ok to build a mosque 2 blocks away from the world trade center because thats unsensitive. Go figure.
We got a bunch of idiots here it's true.
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I remember that mat, through Wootton Bassett, for the 'victims' of the war.

IMHO, instead of condemming it, the governmant should have stolen the idea, and had a march and service in London for all the civilian dead, no matter who caused the deaths.
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It always surprises me that every almost every religion universally teaches respect, tolerance and kindness to your fellow man....

Then this happens!

If more of these holy people practiced what they preached then maybe, just maybe the world could be a bit better.

Small men have always used region to make themselves more powerful.
Religion is pure bullshit. One day hopefully people will realise that and stop fucking each other over because of it.
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Religion isn't bullshit. Its the people that abuse it. I have no religion in my life but many do and get alot out of it. I don't get it myself and never will but I have no right to tell someone that their beliefs are bullshit.

Its those that use the name of God to strengthen their positions or impose power on others than ruin a good thing.
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Religion isn't bullshit. Its the people that abuse it. I have no religion in my life but many do and get alot out of it. I don't get it myself and never will but I have no right to tell someone that their beliefs are bullshit.

Its those that use the name of God to strengthen their positions or impose power on others than ruin a good thing.
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Let us be the adults in the room,
The ones who know and feel our fears—
Who know too well the horror of intolerance, mobs, violence.
Who don’t allow our fear to fester into bitterness.
Who will never name hate as our final answer.

Let us be the adults in the room,
The ones who don’t call names,
Who don’t simplify or turn people into caricatures.
Who don’t paint with broad brushes and sneers.
Who don’t dismiss complex people with simple judgments.

Let us be the adults in the room,
The ones who step in the way of the bullying.
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Who stand on the side of love.

Let us be the adults in the room,
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Let us be the adults in the room,
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Who celebrate the life of Krishna, Jesus,
Who glean sacred text from science and nature.

Let us be the adults in the room.
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Who search for multiple wisdoms,
Who speak many languages,
Who are willing to admit that we need one another.

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Religion isn't bullshit. Its the people that abuse it. I have no religion in my life but many do and get alot out of it. I don't get it myself and never will but I have no right to tell someone that their beliefs are bullshit.

Its those that use the name of God to strengthen their positions or impose power on others than ruin a good thing.
I respectfully disagree. But this is an argument that is old and never ends.
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Between peadophile preists and murderous imans its hard to pick a side. I'm with Tom Cruise on this one. Lizard people living in volcanoes. Yes, that sounds good to me

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Whats the whale at seaworld got to do with it?

But it just seems to me that all regligions are a but nuts. Just pick the one that makes most sense to you and keep out of everyone elses business
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No the whale at Sea World is the lead figure in the Cult of Shamu!
I agree all religions are a bit nutty and if everyone just kept their religion as their own private matter the world would be a much better place!
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