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Old 08-28-2006, 02:47 AM   #41
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Yeah Tanya, I've heard/read that it has been a bit of a problem in Austrailia.
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Old 08-28-2006, 03:33 AM   #43
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Interested conversations. Marc makes comment that is true some but the ladies get all in arms. I know that feel.

There is truth in comment about whiny rape sites. Some. Some sites that are to be counselor sites are really to stir the peoples up to keep coming back not to help through hard times. Like a sore you add medicines and band aid to let heal not pick scab every day to make it bleed again.

I have one time a girl friend raped by other men. Not me having anything to do with it but guys find her drunk in bar when I am working and follow hers out as she walks home.

I come home from work in the morning and her wrists and her inner thighs are brused I find and she crys and tells me what happens and how she is now dirty and ugly. I am holding her then and I kiss her and we fuck and that is all the therapy she is needing. Next night we are back to playing rape game that we like with her tied up and me fucking her.

Did not need therapies or web sites that keep her messed up. She knew she had been stupid and no not deserved to be raped but yes put herself in position for real rape. Learned from it and then she is moving forward with a life.
I'm sorry koda, but I have to agree with Stern on this. I understand what you are trying to say, but any man who begins to think that a rape victim is to blame for her attack, needs to take a long look at themselves.
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Old 08-28-2006, 09:07 AM   #44
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Actually, as my sig line suggests, I advocate the stoic philosophies and ways of thought that take charge of and responsibility for your own emotional states.
Also consider his name. What sort of posts would you expect from someone named MarcEdeSade?
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Old 08-28-2006, 02:17 PM   #45
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I would agree that no matter what it is not the womans fault, though I think sometimes women can put themselves in bad situations. Now wheather it's done knowingly or unknowingly doesn't really matter to me because it's the sickos that commit this crime that are to blame because they have the choice to do it or not. The woman doesn't really have the choice of being attacked or not.
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Old 08-28-2006, 04:52 PM   #46
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Maybe I have forgotten a post I made? I do not remember suggesting that any woman is at fault for being raped. I do think women can put themselves in stupid situations and take unneccesary risks.

I never said Liz deserved to be raped. I tried to point to you that she was a strong woman who overcame it quickly because she knew in part it was her who got into a bad situation. And in part because she knew she was loved and I did not recoil or stop loving her.

I have heard terrible stories about men who won't or can't touch the woman after she is raped. Like they are suddenly dirty whores because of something that was done to them against their will. I chose to make sure immediately that she would never think that of me.

Do I think women ever deserve to be raped? Of course not. Do I think that they sometimes make it easy and more likely to happen? Hell yes!

In America you have the right to walk the street in bad neighborhoods. It is still against the law for you to be attacked there and if you are the police will try to catch those who attacked you. But they will warn you that you should not walk in bad neighborhoods alone. You should not go to a bar and leave your drink unattended or allow a stranger to bring you a drink. And you should not walk home alone when you have been drinking and cut through the woods in a bad area.

Am I being clear enough for everyone now?
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Koda, I was not accusing you of saying that it is the woman's fault, I was just putting out my opinion as were you. No problem with voicing ones opinions.
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Sodo, I was actually referencing the statement that Grm made. I appreciate people agreeing with me, really.

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but any man who begins to think that a rape victim is to blame for her attack, needs to take a long look at themselves
I was thinking that some times a woman will carelessly or stupidly put herself in a place that is unsafe. Saying that men shouldn't rape women and so I'm going to go into an unsafe place is not smart! No condoning the rape, just questioning the judgement of the victim.

When my g/f got raped it was in a place that she should not have been and had she not gotten drunk and drugged she would have had enough wits about her to avoid that particular spot. But alcohol and drugs do tend to dull the senses. That is one reason why some rapist use them as a tool.

And please, nobody condemn me for condoning that. I am not condoning it althouth in my role plays and act outs that is one of my methods!

It is probably a good thing I chose to finish my English For Dummies class this weekend so I can now communicate better, no?
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technically, it is legal for a white man with a shaved head and swastika tattoos to walk down a ghetto street with a white power t-shirt, singing "johnny rebel" tunes.

It is illegal for a random group of youths to beat that person until they are a puddle of goo.

It can be quite reasonably argued that said individual is not to blame for his fate.

And he certainly was not asking for it.

But there are cynics, even among us, who might mistakenly claim he is "asking for a beating" or "deserves it" when he, a peaceful man, never hurt a soul.
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I think alot of victims dwell on it and well i dont like calling them "whiny" i do think in alot of cases they just keep dwelling...
we don't like calling people who whine for a good reason whiny. It is a word that has "loaded" meaning for some, indicating that the whining is not reasonable.

But indeed, there are legitimate reasons to whine.

Why do some people assume that a whiny person has no legitimate reason to whine?
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Wow. really stirred the hornet nest on this one.

really folks, my comments were directed at a person interested in real rape sites. Perhaps directing him to victim sites will make him think deeply.

Certainly enticing him with the prospects of "whining women" is an incentive directed at such morbid curiosity, in an attempt to show him the reality of, and aftermath of; real rape.

The fact that so much ruckus has been caused was JUST an amusing side effect.

Do you not agree that using a "carrot" to entice soemone to go to such a site is often more effective than the "stick" of "you're a suck fuck who deserves to die!!!"?

really, people. hearts belong in chests. when worn on sleeves, they just get blood everywhere.
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Why don't you read your pm's?
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ehhh someone please put this in the rowdy room so I have a liescense to kill (at least verbally)
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[QUOTE=MarcEdeSade]technically, it is legal for a white man with a shaved head and swastika tattoos to walk down a ghetto street with a white power t-shirt, singing "johnny rebel" tunes.
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Somobody has a point here!

Well, about real rape one thing is clear: it is a crime, and rapists are criminals.
On the other hand, is well known that men have two heads-two brains.The blood is not enough to work both of them at same time...
So, as advice to girls, avoid walking alone in the middle of the night wearing that ''fuck me'' dresses we all love. U never know which head is on...
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Ah ... finally ... my favourite statement again ...

Women, you can't put on whatever you like, because men can't control themselves ...

Can't get enough of that ...

I have a simple solution for this problem: Your second brain gives you that much trouble? Let's get rid of it!
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