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Old 02-28-2008, 06:22 PM   #81
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lmao maddog!
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:22 PM   #82
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Maddog, that may be the only sensible thing said in the past 10 posts.
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:23 PM   #83
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ERR.. im being serious !!
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:26 PM   #84
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LOL! You have a unique perspective Maddog!
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:31 PM   #85
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Hey if you were having an argument with someone and all of a sudden jessica alba walked up to you and took her top off and said "could you please caress them please"


would you really still be arguing ??

NO !!! exactly - TITS = PEACE !!!
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:32 PM   #86
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wow fucking hell SD u coming up on 5000 posts phew !!!
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Seriously, you do need to back that up because that was just rude. If someone states their opinion, you do not need to shrug it off BS, Doctor of Psychology. You really should know better.

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Ok, so you did back it up.....but still.

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Old 02-28-2008, 06:44 PM   #88
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Oh ... THAT's how it works ... blast, I might have figured that one out by myself ...
Bloody mess!

Well then:
I think your assumption how "we" women think is totally out of cohesion. If you actually feel that way please do so but leave me out of it!
Neither do I "expect" to be raped nor do I "prepare" for it by having rape fantasies. To actually prepare for being assaulted (probably with the intend of being raped) I do martial arts because I don't intent to let somebody rape me.
Also in my opinion your comparison of wallets to vaginas is ridiculous beyond words and doesn't actually deserve a serious answer.

In general we might keep this tread on track however and refrain from discussing something else in here.
OBVIOUSLY he was talking about how a wallet and a vagina are NOT the same thing, I understood that from the get go. He simply said that a wallet is not the same because it is a blunt object where your vag is truly yours.
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:46 PM   #89
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Well, the psyche of the victim doesn't really care for what should matter ...



I never disputed that.



Well, I know what your argument implies, I simply disagree.
If you felt that way that's fine with me, I'm just saying it doesn't for most women.
I do not feel that you should speak for most woman. I am nothing Like you or any other woman

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Truer words were never spoken.
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Whoops, I was referring to sierra's post being rude, not ego's. The others hadn't loaded when I posted that, my mistake. I'll write a second response in a moment. Although I don't really know what I'm being threatened to be attacked with, stern, but you don't think comments implying pretty blatantly that I'm stupid are somewhat rude? Anyway, it's not important. I'm not offended or anything, I'm just tired of trying to talk about something, and being continually called dumb. Ego has been very civil, and I have, too.

"There is one who could tell us why that happens, but i'm afraid you pissed her off"
How did I piss her off? Looking back, Stern's first response to my post was to call it all "b.......", then to say that she had more mean things to say but wouldn't because of rules. Then it was pretty much a lot of aggressive posting from her, devolving into more insults at me, and then other people joined in, but not to add to the discussion, just to insult.

"And you know? I dont need to explain why it happens."
Well, that's odd, wouldn't that be a major step for ending it?

"Stern is a female and has seen many women who actually had some psychological problems because of rape, and that gives her the right to ask you to separate your opinion from other women's one."

I'm female, too, and have seen plenty of abused women. And I already agreed after her first actual response that I shouldn't lump all women together. And have said that I'm talking about why, not what. I got over it, it's hard for me to understand why others aren't able to let it go.

"but statistically, they are a big number compared with you."

That doesn't work, because you have no clue who I've talked to in my life, either. You think I've stayed inside all through life? Who hasn't talked to people of many different cultures?

"Yes, you are the only one who states that robbery is worst than rape and i think that gives me the right to evoke the "whole world's" opinion."

You have no authority to make that statement.

"whatever ... I suggest you take a step back to reconsider your attitude towards the members not sharing your opinion."

Do you mean change my attitude to agree with yours? The 'rude' thing everyone is biting me back for was simply expressing my opinion. I already know people don't share my opinion. I started a debate. You know, write back and forth, see how the other people's minds work, that sort of thing. Everybody is telling me my opinion is wrong. This is strange to me, too, since the ideas I'm talking about are mostly from personal experience, so I should know what I'm talking about.
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Dont listen to that nonsense and dont let people tell you what to think. And most of all, dont be afraid of pissing anyone off. Seriously. All forums have one thing in common: its for speaking your mind and people are allowed to disagree...but a forum member telling you to be scared cause' you may have pissed someone off is nonsense. You can talk about your disagreement and be civil. Thank goodness for the ignore feature. And if you cant be civil..theres always the rowdy room.
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Hey, thanks. I agree.
I need to cut down my posts, I post one, and about ten new ones are there!
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I consider that a compliment. So thank you.
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"he"


she, actually!
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Sorry! They had me thinking you were a man.
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I hear it all the time online. When I had shorter hair, it happened often in the real world.
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Never thought a place where people express their fantasies would hold such...turmoil.

*still likes to think of violating a woman's backdoor*
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I do not feel that you should speak for most woman. I am nothing Like you or any other woman
Yeah, each one of us is unique and has an individual personality. But during a conversation is absolutely fair to generalize, when a group of people tend to react to the same way, or tend to have the same opinion.

For example, one could say that meat tastes better than bread. If one person declares that he prefers bread instead of meat, that would automatically give the statment a false status. But generally, its a true statment because most people do like meat more than bread.

Or, one could say that men mess the basin when they piss. Well, some of us do not. But generally, we do.
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"There is one who could tell us why that happens, but i'm afraid you pissed her off"
How did I piss her off? Looking back, Stern's first response to my post was to call it all "b.......", then to say that she had more mean things to say but wouldn't because of rules. Then it was pretty much a lot of aggressive posting from her, devolving into more insults at me, and then other people joined in, but not to add to the discussion, just to insult.
Hey, i am not a referee or a judge, i'm not going to say who's right or wrong, or if she/you did well. I stated that you pissed her looking on from the effect.



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"And you know? I dont need to explain why it happens."
Well, that's odd, wouldn't that be a major step for ending it?
No. The original statment i try to defend is: "Rape has psychological impacts as well, among other things".
To say why this is, i should be a specialist (i am not). I can say however that it has, because i've been told so by all rape victims (besides you) i have ever talked to. And all the people (who I have talked to) who are not victims but have tried to put themselves under a victims skin agree.

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I'm female, too, and have seen plenty of abused women. And I already agreed after her first actual response that I shouldn't lump all women together. And have said that I'm talking about why, not what. I got over it, it's hard for me to understand why others aren't able to let it go.
Your initial statment was that "the psychological result of being raped shouldn't be very much different than from being mugged."
You know, since ancient years people were considering the right to control their body more important than money. None who had some money was a slave.
So, the "why" that is is a different conversation. I would be glad to read some comments about that "why" from people who can say, but before we start that convo we should end this one. Again, judging by the effect, your statment seems to be wrong. Being raped is not the same thing with being mugged (due to psychological results among other things).
Lets agree on that one, then we could go on talking about the "why".

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"but statistically, they are a big number compared with you."

That doesn't work, because you have no clue who I've talked to in my life, either. You think I've stayed inside all through life? Who hasn't talked to people of many different cultures?

"Yes, you are the only one who states that robbery is worst than rape and i think that gives me the right to evoke the "whole world's" opinion."

You have no authority to make that statement.
It works fine. If 98% of the people i've talked to agree (the rest 2% was speaking a language i couldnt understand well), i can fairly assume that this is a representative sample.
What about the people you have meet? Do they agree with you?
Honestly, you are the only one. Not the one out of three, but out of many. You can have your opinion -its your right- but you are a very small percentage.



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Everybody is telling me my opinion is wrong. This is strange to me, too, since the ideas I'm talking about are mostly from personal experience, so I should know what I'm talking about.
That is very different than what you was saying until now. Actually, this is a fact, not an opinion.
"You, as a victim, got over this easily" and i am glad for that. But look around you.
For most victims is different. You should be thanking God for being the lucky one instead of trying to convince others that its no big deal.
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