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Old 03-10-2009, 12:59 AM   #41
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I am in total agreement with RLA. pedophiles Come here to get there rocks Off. I post FANTASY Incest. I try to make it as real as the People that follow my thread like. beond that I am a father and a grandfather I have had nor would ever have any type of incest with anyone in my family nor have I ever had a desire to.
This is a Nich that Many people enjoy.
Everybody comes here to get their rocks off to a greater or lesser degree. And yes, we do understand the difference between fantasy and reality, whether it be forced sex, incest, or whatever blows your hair back.

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I would never post child incest or any type of child sex on this board or any other. In fact the boards that I do Moderate or have moderated in the past. I make it known that not only will I delete there post on SITE but I will also get there IP address and report them. The way I interpret the law is that If you knowingly allow this to be posted your as guilty as they are.
Hold up right there.

Nobody here has EVER allowed child porn to be posted on RB. The very few times it has been posted, it was removed as soon as a moderator saw it and that member was disciplined. I have never seen vids, pictures, stories or RPs that involve any kind of sexual contact with a child, and I'll thank you NOT to make allegations that anyone here is "guilty" of anything whatsoever. Tread lightly here, my friend.

Besides, the operative word here is "knowingly". The owner of a site like this is only responsible for the content if it is reported and not removed. As a board owner and a legal professional, you can bet your bottom dollar I DO know the law on this subject.

Did you not see the outcry that happened in the Rowdy Room when an obvious troll out for trouble actually posted on the subject? No, I don't think child porn is "allowed" on RB. If 3/4 of the members here could get their hands on that guy, he would have been torn to pieces.

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There should be no "case by case basis" The post should be wiped, the Person banned with out hesitation, and there IP address reported that Is the responsible thing to do.
The rules here are set by Admin. The mods follow them. Don't beat them up because they follow the guidelines they agreed to when they took on the job.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:49 AM   #42
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While I would be in favor of fast and swift punishment for pedophiles, we also must temper that with the rules of the board. If the mods are limited by what can be done in the begining thats not really a bad thing.

Ive had my wrists slapped a few times here, I was glad I couldnt just be banned for being an asshole. And yes the pedophile thing was horrible I was one of the ones leading the lynching of "An Honest Guy".

But the guidelines are the guidelines. I have many relatives in law enforcement. Theyve told me dozens of times it would be easy to pull out the 9mm and save the taxpayers alot of money.

But thats not the system they signed on to work in. So no Judge Dred for them

Bottom line the pedophile piece of shit exposed himself for what he was, the members here batted him around. After he didnt get it and change his behavoir the mods disposed of the carcass, pretty simple.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:13 PM   #43
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While I would be in favor of fast and swift punishment for pedophiles, we also must temper that with the rules of the board. If the mods are limited by what can be done in the begining thats not really a bad thing.

Ive had my wrists slapped a few times here, I was glad I couldnt just be banned for being an asshole. And yes the pedophile thing was horrible I was one of the ones leading the lynching of "An Honest Guy".

But the guidelines are the guidelines. I have many relatives in law enforcement. Theyve told me dozens of times it would be easy to pull out the 9mm and save the taxpayers alot of money.

But thats not the system they signed on to work in. So no Judge Dred for them

Bottom line the pedophile piece of shit exposed himself for what he was, the members here batted him around. After he didnt get and change his behavoir it the mods disposed of the carcass, pretty simple.
Damm CR very well spoken my friend

now I think the pedo thing should be dropped it over it perhaps costs us a few respected members but its over for now

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The only thing that bothers me about the real rape thread is when victims come and share their story and its obvious they are just looking for support and not really into rape fantasy and people encourage them to stay when I think they would be much better off going to a rape survivors website or something.
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The only thing that bothers me about the real rape thread is when victims come and share their story and its obvious they are just looking for support and not really into rape fantasy and people encourage them to stay when I think they would be much better off going to a rape survivors website or something.
I think you are making an assumption here that survivors of rape & sex crimes find, join and post on this board by mistake., believing this to be a rape support board. While this may happen in some cases, for the majority I think it is different.

I think if you look around and check, a great deal of the women, and some of the male that have posted their real life experiences, have more then one post.

I can think of half a dozen members of the top my head who have posted in this thread, and several others, including the story and movie threads.

These are people that already are interested in rape fantasy or role play, realise that we are on the whole decent people, and then decide to share.
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The only thing that bothers me about the real rape thread is when victims come and share their story and its obvious they are just looking for support and not really into rape fantasy and people encourage them to stay when I think they would be much better off going to a rape survivors website or something.
I think the Real Rape thread should be deleted all together.Most people who come to this site are looking to get off to Rape Fantasy.Im not talking about people who post regularly.Im speaking of lurkers.Who make up most of the views on RB.The title of the board says..."Message board for people who wish to roleplay and discuss rape fantasies."I think having a real rape thread is a conflict of interest.

I agree that these poster who take part in the real rape thread would be much better off going to a rape survivors site instead of having people get off to their personal pain.

We at this board do not tolerate real rape anywhere on RB.Not in movies,stories,or news postings but we have this thread???

Makes no sense to me and i wish it would be deleted.
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There IS a purpose to the real rape thread, and it's worth fighting to keep it.

As most of you have seen by now, my story is in that thread. Rape survivors site? Please. I've been there. I have no intention of being the victim again and again by throwing up my hands and crying "Woe is me" on a survivors' site. That works for some - it doesn't for me. What empowered me was that I reclaimed my story by telling it. I told it here because it's one of the few places I can even say the word "rape" and nobody reaches for the smelling salts.

Monsters live in the dark. Every person who wrote their story in that thread feels better for showing their personal monsters the light of day. Do you have any idea how cleansing it was to write that? Yes, I am aware that some people find the real rape thread arousing. I don't care. If reading about me being attacked blows your hair back, you have my blessing. Fap away. Just don't tell me about it.

That thread is not there for the people who read it. It's the only thread on the board that is there for the people who post in it.
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I never thought the thread would be deleted.Not in a million years.I was just stating my case.

Every person is different.(obviously)What works for some does not for others.
I am glad it brought you a positive conclusion Sierra.I think that is great.
I to am like many here.Someone who has to deal with some thing that happened in their past.I personally would be furious if someone took my story and used it for their gratification ,but thats me.

Having said all of that,it's beside the point i was trying to make and that is.This is a fantasy site.One that is 100 percent against Real Rape.So it is just something that does not go with the credo here.

Thats all.

Im not pursuing this to happen.I was just giving my thoughts.

Good to see you posting here.
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Personally I think it should stay.

I understand about the types of people you mention, but these probably lurk around rape survivors sites as well.

I have to agree with Sierra, this is probably one of the few places on the web where survivors of sexual crimes (I hate to use the word victims), will find people who won’t faint at the mere mention of the word rape.

If out of all the members that have posted there, one has found peace through it, then it is worth it.

The women, and men, who have suffered this and survived have my sincere admiration, as I know they do yours DO.

Whether it sits well on a Rape Fantasy board, I think that is a case of horse for course.

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Old 06-05-2009, 05:25 AM   #51
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I honestly don't see any danger of anyone looking for a rape support site, a help group, a therapy forum, etc. might accidentally stumble upon RB, mistake it for one of those, post their own experience and suddenly realize they misunderstood the concept of our site.

Someone new to RB would have to look for the Real Rape thread, browsing the forum to find it. Now - if this person strolls around RB without noticing it's clearly not any kind of rape support group, without noticing this is a sexual fetish board ... ?

Sorry but this person requires help on a whole different level.

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The occasionally raised objection based on people getting off on the stories posted there is - in my opinion - negligible. RB is a board for adults and I expect adults to be able to comprehend this possibility and make up their minds. Nobody is forced to post anything there. If you wish to keep your own story to yourself ... just do.

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Sierra already mentioned her own reasons for posting there. It's safe to assume every single person who posted there had their own reasons to do so as well, same as the people who chose not to post had their reasons, too.

I understand and appreciate members stating their feelings towards the Real Rape thread but I think as long as people use it - keep in mind these people are members on RB, mostly having rape fantasies themselves - there seems to be a need for a place like the Real Rape thread, even on RB.

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I actually don't see a contradiction of creating RB - a place for people who share the ravishment fetish - and on RB have a place offering members who have been raped for real to talk about it, thus showing every visitor we are well aware of the difference between fantasy and reality, showing every visitor we're not just creeps and rummies but people who do care about the real thing as well.
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Stern and Sierra etc, I completely see your point of view and am not saying anything is wrong with the thread, I know I have found soooooo much validation knowing there are others out there who are survivors and also enjoy rape and can post here. I know its rare when it happens that someone comes actually looking for a support site and wel I guess that can't be helped and you are right they should be able to see its a rape fetish site straight away

I am a bit drunk atm so sorry if i am making no sense

I don't have aproble with the real rape thread again, i believe talkign to many women on these sorts of sites has helped me alot
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Well, I do have to throw in my support to remove the celebrity rape thread for one simple reason...these are real victims that did not consent to have their information posted on a rape fantasy board. They put the information out there as a sounding board, to throw the spotlight on rape and its trauma, to show other victims that they are not alone and even celebrities are survivors, too. Posting it on a fantasy board is inappropriate at the very least. It is a slap in the face to everything they endured and whether or not it is the intention, in my opinion it says that their pain is completely appropriate for a porn fantasy board that fantasizes about millions of women and men's very real terror, nightmares, and years of suffering.

And now I get not so simple. The real rape thread is for members who want to willingly discuss their stories. They know what the site is, and they can choose to have it here. I posted a bit of information, and then I decided that because of the nature of my story, the argument that rape is not just physical, it is largely psychological, I decided that I would no longer post on it simply because there are many who believe that as long as a woman or man physically consents there is no psychological implication to rape fantasy.

We can talk for hours about what happened, why it did, and why it resulted in fantasies about something that was hurtful. I hope we also know, when posting, that there will be many who think that if you fantasize about it, you must want it to happen for real. Indeed, I thought like that a long time. What is wrong with me? Why is my brain so warped? And a lot of it will lead perpetrators to believe that if you just rape a woman, she will realize that she likes it. Given the topics, the material, and their mindset, it is easy, for me at least, to see how such a thought could happen. And comments...degrading, horrible, victimizing comments are put on this board every day before someone can remove them if seen. It is one thing to see them when you know they will be there but quite another to have your story subjected to those comments because someone else posted it.

We did not give these celebrities this choice, and given all of the psychological implications that are involved or could ever be imagined, I believe that posting this information is a victimization. You may be of the opinion that because they freely spoke about it for all to hear that it gives us the license to post it anywhere. I believe we should be respectful of these celebrities. It is hurtful enough to be a survivor of rape and incest in the first place. We should give them the decency of not revictimizing them by placing their pain and degradation on a board that promotes rape fantasy, because the association does seem to say that it is ok. Fake stories that evoke a real crime. "Fake" videos that do the same. It seems to say, "Let's fantasize about their rape. We do it all the time to others, right? In our heads?" A fantasy board or not, it is about rape, an illegal act. It is, at the inside of it, at the inner core, something that promotes, intentionally or not, acts that strip away personhood, worth, respect, and protection.

Yes, it is an issue of blurred lines. The Real Rape thread is one where current members can choose to tell their stories and clear boundaries have been set. People come there knowing they can find likeminded others who know their suffering, where they can talk about compulsions they developed and fantasies they have as a result without fear of judgment (I hope) that they might find on other sites. Indeed, there are sickos that make their way to each and every rape survivor site and forum to get off on the pain of the victim and many times to relive their own crimes.

These celebrities victimization would be just as fantasized about at any of these others sites, newsrooms, etc.; the difference is that those sites were not made to fantasize about a topic that is very real.

This one is, and while we can choose to post our stories here knowing the dangers, it is not a site primarily to assist recovering victims. We have a specific purpose in posting our stories here. I've actually received more insight into my compulsions in the last few days than I did on help sites that were too afraid to discuss them. I'm not quite sure what the purpose was of posting the real rape of celebrities on a porn fantasy site save for the main purpose of the site.

Where the lines blurs is perhaps in the subject itself. Fantasy, yes, but rape fantasy, incest fantasy...you have people here who truly get off on real rape, sexual abuse, incest, etc., because they are the criminals that perpetrate this crime of hurting women that fantasies are created from and they want to relive that as much as possible. Perhaps many will not agree with me, but the subject itself, the history of the subject, and the comments of a lot of people on this board who like rape videos to look "real," seem to me to speak it as the highest truth.

Fantasy or reality, it is fantasy about a very real problem, an illegal action that is for the purpose of having power over women from simple domination to the worst horror you could possibly imagine, and there will be people who do not know how to distinguish between the real and the fantasy.

How many of us watch a video and wonder if the Russian or Asian "star" is there of her own free will? How old are they really? Most Russian orphans are kicked out of the orphanages at 16, their names sold by their caretakers to sex traffickers. Certainly they are molded and drugged and threatened and made to pay off imaginary "debt." Is this real rape of a minor who is not 18 but is simply labeled as 18? I believe it is, so in the issue of blurred lines, I think there is a lot on this forum that I believe crosses the line and a little that I think is fine.

I find myself getting mad and upset, sickened and disgusted with myself, but then I have to remind myself why I am here and that you are liable to open a can of worms on a site like this over anything, where the it is hard to see where the line really is between fantasy and reality. It has shed a lot of light, because I'd never been to a site like this past a few days ago, and during my search of it, I felt revictimized, horrified, disgusted, shamed, and a lot like using that really good defensive move where I break someone's nose...or break their teeth.

I also talked to a few great people that seem to me to respect boundaries and respect women. Ironic, really, since I'm here because I lack a respect for myself. and I talked to women like myself, which made me feel a lot of relief.

Just a question, because I'm honestly curious...for those of you who roleplay and act out your fantasies...it is safe in real life...safe words, consensual...what is it in your mind? Real? In my mind (in my fantasies) it is. In my mind, it is something I little understand, something I've been long ashamed of, something that both excites and disgusts me. Part of the reason is because this way, i can control it, but then I have to wonder why I have the fantasies, and I can trace that back to the way my mind developed, as I was a child...and what was abnormal became normal and then warred with truth and truth is intermixed with layers of psychological hurts and lies, because at the crux of it, there is still something in me that says I'm worthy of no better treatment, even while I know the truth is the exact opposite.

I know, I've gone on and on, and people will want to delete me (and maybe ban me because this is kinda in your face), but in all of my rambling writings that may make little sense, I am trying to shed some light onto why we real rape survivors feel as we do. I believe these celebrities should be given the respect deserved. Whether harm was intended or not, I know I would feel harmed and revictimized if my story were to appear on an incest fantasy site without my consent. I would feel as though people were saying that my perpetrators' real crimes were the perfect real crimes to fantasize about and they don't belong on a site that fantasizes about a topic whose psychological implications and damages are still little understood in many ways.

But yeah, basically, if a person chooses to put their stories up here, then ok, but if they don't choose to, they should not be allowed to stay on the forums.
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THe times I have roleplayed in real life i have not enjoyed any of them except for one. Because the men didn't give a shit about me enjoying it or not and just treated me like a piece of shit. I think if you are going to roleplay it needs to be with someone that respects you as a human being. Many men you would meet for real life play wouldn't respect you as a human being. I have met a few people online with one crossing my boundaries and anotehr one leaving me in the middle of no where unconscious.

However I have had a nice experience, it was my first. The guy respected me and I believe that is what made it enjoyable.

The thing is though, in some part of me it most certainly did feel like real rape. It wasn't, but in some ways it felt like it because it was just that, re enacting a real rape...



I think the fact that you can control fantasies is the reason you have them, its okay and normal. I don't have a desire to act them out anymore because I think i have began to respect myself more. If i met someone who respected me as well maybe I would do it but as i have said I just did not enjoy most of the expeirnces I had...
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There IS a purpose to the real rape thread, and it's worth fighting to keep it.

As most of you have seen by now, my story is in that thread. Rape survivors site? Please. I've been there. I have no intention of being the victim again and again by throwing up my hands and crying "Woe is me" on a survivors' site. That works for some - it doesn't for me. What empowered me was that I reclaimed my story by telling it. I told it here because it's one of the few places I can even say the word "rape" and nobody reaches for the smelling salts.

Monsters live in the dark. Every person who wrote their story in that thread feels better for showing their personal monsters the light of day. Do you have any idea how cleansing it was to write that? Yes, I am aware that some people find the real rape thread arousing. I don't care. If reading about me being attacked blows your hair back, you have my blessing. Fap away. Just don't tell me about it.

That thread is not there for the people who read it. It's the only thread on the board that is there for the people who post in it.
i too posted in that thread and i was a bit surprised too see it on this board,i guess alot of visitors do get off on it,but i'm sure they do the same at those support groups too,so i agree with you 100% sierra,let them jack away,who cares,if they do it here,where one has to expect that becuase of the whole purpose of the board,maybe they won't do it as much at those support groups,where the females there wouldn't expect that at all.
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Psychologists call this “Mastery.” the doctor that introduced me to the term explained it with an example, so I don’t fully understand it myself; “In cases of child sexual abuse, we have them tell a story of the day it happened; It starts as the original story did, but then ends, rather than the sexual abuse, with them going to picnic in the park.” (Forgive that I didn’t exactly quote Major ESTEP precisely, but it was almost 6 years ago, and I didn’t exactly have a tape recorder.)
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When I was getting my security guard license, the instructor, in very clear and unmistakable detail, explained that as a security guard, it is not my responsibility what someone else thinks; If they see the badge and the uniform and assume I’m a cop, that is their problem, not mine. I am under no obligation, unless specifically asked “¿Are you a cop?” to disabuse them of the notion, and even then I don’t have to answer honestly- I can legally answer “¿Well what do you think?” (I actually did that once, and when the stupid bitch said “no” my response was something along the lines of “no shit sherlocks.”)

Likewise, you are neither responsible for, nor in any way can control, other people’s response to your true story. There are people out there that find food sexually arousing (and I mean ANY food, not traditionally sexually-related foods, like oysters). There are people out there that find bulimia (their own, specifically) arousing- and I know of at least one person that thinks of sex, in any form, an absolute turn-off. (Neither, or so he claims, does he masturbate, watch porn, or engage in any form of sexual activity. He’s also a fag…)
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Likewise, you are neither responsible for, nor in any way can control, other people’s response to your true story. There are people out there that find food sexually arousing (and I mean ANY food, not traditionally sexually-related foods, like oysters). There are people out there that find bulimia (their own, specifically) arousing- and I know of at least one person that thinks of sex, in any form, an absolute turn-off. (Neither, or so he claims, does he masturbate, watch porn, or engage in any form of sexual activity. He’s also a fag…)[/QUOTE]

yeah,i guess thats true enough,if people can get turned on by shit,nothing can be surprising then,it seems to me people are natually disgusted by shit,like an instinct thing

so if someone gets there rocks off that way,it's fine with me,but they shouldn't be surprised when others think thats just plain nasty
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Uniform and badge... sounds interesting.........
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