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Old 05-27-2013, 03:18 PM   #21
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Why are you apologizing, Menace? You did nothing wrong.
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:21 PM   #22
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I don't think men's magazines are nearly as dangerous to girls as women's magazines. At least with men's, the message is "Hey! Check out these slutty hotties! They're hawt!!1!". Girls aren't paying them any attention. It's the women's magazines like Cosmo and those that girls are reading and getting their warped views of beauty and fashion. I was there in the 90's. Kate Moss harmed far more teenage girls than Jenna Jameson ever could. That whole "waif" fad was a product of the teenage girl market...not the teenage boy market.
I responded to the wrong quote. You mentioned eating disorders and industry instilled standards of beauty and body type.

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Except that its EXACTLY magazines like that which cause unstable and hormonal girls to start eating disorders. Unrealistic expectation. Never mind teaching men who have no chance of getting even the non-airbrushed version of the girl in the magazine into believing all women actually look like that.
I maintain that magazines aimed at teen girls are way more dangerous in that context than magazines aimed at men and teen boys. Yes, the men's magazines promote objectification, but it is the Cosmo's of the world that whisper "you'd be pretty if you weren't so fat and dressed better" to young girls.
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I did tell GC that was a cheap shot, cause I thought she putting down your parenting skills. It only hit me a second later she might not know you, I just assumed you both came from RD.
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:28 PM   #24
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IMO-it was a cheap shot. We've talked online, but she doesn't know me outside of the forum, nor was she aware that I'm a parent. I still consider her statement ignorant and uncalled for.
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Employment lawyer Samantha Mangwana is trying to encourage employees and customers to sue retailers for sexual harassment and sexual discrimination. Why? For putting lads mags like Loaded and FHM on display with pictures of fit birds on the front cover.

Some people obviously have nothing useful to do!

She rather pretty though and quite fit herself. I wonder if Nuts would be interested in doing a photo spread of her?
I don't think any of you have hit on the real reason. It sounds to me like she's trawling for business like all overpaid fucking lawyers.
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Butting in here to state id give own 100000 rep if I could for this post.


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I am successfully raising a teenage daughter! She doesn't fall for the "magazine women are what I need to look like". She is her own individual, drop dead gorgeous, doesn't dress provocatively, and doesn't take shit from guys who disrespect her.

Just to clarify-I'm raising her on my own and have since she was a baby.
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I repped her wl, but my reps still not giving many points yet.
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I can give a personal opinion on this. I was raised well in a conservative family. I did well at school, and was the type of kid up till puberty who did as I was told and a very easy going child.


When I reached thirteen I started reading teen mags, I decided to be a rebel, and took drugs and drank. I developed anorexia and bulimia, and pretty much was a bully to the other non cool kids.


That is no way a reflection on my parents, they tried eveything to help me and stop my downward spiral, but I was stubborn and didn't listen. Eventually due to genetic I developed schizophrenia in my early twenties.

I'm just stating this here, that sometimes, despite the family someone is raised in, and good parenting skills, sometimes the blame is the kid themselves. In my case, anyway. I don't know if I'm unique, but I adrmire own a great deal. I remember how difficult I was as a teenager,

The reflection of your daughter own, is beautfiul, I'm so glad she takes your adivce. If I had done the same, non of this all for me would prolly have happened.

For the record, the teen mags had nothing to due with my eating disorders. I realised that ppl in everyday life looked nothing like that.
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I can give a personal opinion on this. I was raised well in a conservative family. I did well at school, and was the type of kid up till puberty who did as I was told and a very easy going child.


When I reached thirteen I started reading teen mags, I decided to be a rebel, and took drugs and drank. I developed anorexia and bulimia, and pretty much was a bully to the other non cool kids.


That is no way a reflection on my parents, they tried eveything to help me and stop my downward spiral, but I was stubborn and didn't listen. Eventually due to genetic I developed schizophrenia in my early twenties.

I'm just stating this here, that sometimes, despite the family someone is raised in, and good parenting skills, sometimes the blame is the kid themselves. In my case, anyway. I don't know if I'm unique, but I adrmire own a great deal. I remember how difficult I was as a teenager,

The reflection of your daughter own, is beautfiul, I'm so glad she takes your adivce. If I had done the same, non of this all for me would prolly have happened.

For the record, the teen mags had nothing to due with my eating disorders. I realised that ppl in everyday life looked nothing like that.
Gotta respect a fighter. You've overcome and learned to live with some very difficult diseases. You have my utmost admiration for that.

Thank you so much for the kind words. *big hugs*
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Forgot to add that. Eventually I became such a bitch I myself got bullied and ostracised by the popular group I was in. That says a lot.
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Yes ite been many years of helping myself to get to this point of maturity. Thankyou for the kind words, you rock girl. Total respect to you.
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:15 AM   #34
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Btw to those who said womens magazines cause eating disorder, not true. In kids being thin may be a stage of growing up, but most come good. Anorexia and bulimia have nothing to do with appearance when alls said and done, its a. Mental illness, not a vanity issue.

Tho I do agree young children today are being sexualised, my childhood was not like that, we didn't even have the net back in my day.
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I might sue wongadotcom, and every commercial broadcaster I watch, for subjecting me to its gender stereotyping of Earl. They portray him as a lazy, shiftless, stupid, work place sex pest who is always clowning about.
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Objectification of women is nothing new, and certainly was not created by the media. Women have been fighting for decades just to be paid the same wage for the same work. In my grandmother's time they fought to join the workplace at all. In her grandmother's time a wife was essentially an indentured servant. A woman's identity was tied up with a man's her entire life - father, then husband.

Now it's not the men who are dictating that we should all be so thin our ribs show. Most men like a woman to be fit and healthy, with enough curves to show she's a woman. We teach body-loathing to to ourselves and to each other.

I didn't raise a teen-aged girl, by the way, but it hasn't been THAT long since I was one. I remember being distressed with my body - first because I had no bust, then because when I acquired one it was bigger than the "ideal". My mother didn't help much (she was a mean drunk), but I finally learned to accept my body for what it is.

And I did help the cause by raising sons with an appreciation and respect for women as people - and by teaching them acceptance of the endless variety of body shapes and sizes.
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I don't find women in porn, magazine covers, etc are objectifying or offensive. I would rather see 100's of women nearly naked in bikini's on magazine covers than see or hear 1 woman be stereotyped or put in a role of authority just so someone can appear progressive or "sensitive to women's needs".

That's more demeaning to me than anything, its like your saying "You can't really be a doctor, but its rude to say that and its an unpopular opinion, so i'm obligated to put you in this commercial to not appear like a sexist"
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We are supposed to be able to separate fantasy from reality, no? Well guess what, bro, in reality broads are (*gasp!*) people too!

Personally I don't give a crap what you do. Providing something constructive might be a bonus.

Randomly... I have a pretty good sense of humor regarding objectification though I do spread it evenly between BOTH sexes. Even when me being treated "like one of the lads" is supposed to amusing for some reason. Maybe you can explain that one to me? I am, after all, just a silly blonde *twirls hair and stares off into space*
I dunno if you have noticed but shock horror, fantasy is what those magazines are selling too.

My point is that you are whining about it on a forum while a, having the screen name Need2beowned on a fantasy site where the women are treated as sex objects.

Personally I think it will be a sad day when we let feminazis shut down adult publications through their actions, cause how long after will it be before they come after vanilla forums and then ours?

Oh and Dick right, the women I know are pressured far more by pictures in the Celeb mags then they have ever been by Nuts/ Zoo etc
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I don't think any of you have hit on the real reason. It sounds to me like she's trawling for business like all overpaid fucking lawyers.
BINGO!!!!!!
This is totally the case of an ambulance chaser trying to cash in with bullshit lawsuits!
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Oh yes, and as far as the supposed horribly socially and psychologically crippling affects of magazines that have pictures of hot, airbrushed women on males and females has goes...

It really is amazing the non-issues people get up in arms about when hundreds of millions live in crushing poverty and the enviroment is a shambles and the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer and nuclear armed nations have rising tensions and religious extremism is on the rise around the word!
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