What do you think of Rape?

[asianpope]

You know, It's all fine and dandy put on in some movies and stuff... But what do you really think about it? I'm just curious.

[Ragman]

If you are talking about real rape than I think its an detestable crime and deserving of incredibly strict and severe punishment. And I am pretty sure everyone else who responds to this will agree with me.

Fantasy Rape is a different matter. I like rape fantasy because t gives my dark side a chance to come out and play. Its a side of me I would never let free in the real world, a side of me that.. If I met on the street I would probably avoid at all costs. but in fantasy I find it far more entertaining to be the villan.

I am sorry if I misunderstood your question.

[ChiTownHoney]

I am very curious about it and like to read about it...the reasons for it, the effects to the victim etc. It really interests me, and I want to fully comprehend what it does to the victim and why it does it, so that I dont fantasize much about it anymore.

I dont think its the most heinous crimes in the world though. There are much worse crimes.

To those who say its just the fantasy that they like...come on now....real life breeds fantasy doesnt it?

all the men who say that when they see a hot woman on the street and think about raping her...they say its just "fantasy" yet they really want to do it, but restrain themselves. I dont think its fantasy its self restraint.

What i find very strange is the men who totally detest the crime, want to kill the guy who does it...yet fantasize about it themselves and I'm sure given a situation where there would be no consequence, would do it. I believe that most men dont rape because they dont want a woman who doesnt want them...men who have fantasies are the opposite no? I think that they are more likely to rape than men who dont have rape fantasies.

Just my humble opinion and 0.2 cents

[sindyloo]

It is Always Much Better with TWO people!!

[Ragman]

for the record ChiTown, I can say that, at least in my case, you are incorrect.

Even were there absolutley no legal consequences to rape I would still not do it. And I am sure there re plenty of People who are rolling their eyes saying " yeah right sure" But its true.

Rape is a very personal crime. It is a betrayal orf trust, Its a violation of safety and it is something that can psycologically damage a victim for years to come. It is for those reasons and not legal ones that I don't do it. For me the fantasy is about more than jsut getting off. its a mind set, a psycological game, but it is just that... a game.

once again, just speaking for myself here of course

[ChiTownHoney]

Originally Posted by Ragman

for the record ChiTown, I can say that, at least in my case, you are incorrect.

Even were there absolutley no legal consequences to rape I would still not do it. And I am sure there re plenty of People who are rolling their eyes saying " yeah right sure" But its true.

Rape is a very personal crime. It is a betrayal orf trust, Its a violation of safety and it is something that can psycologically damage a victim for years to come. It is for those reasons and not legal ones that I don't do it. For me the fantasy is about more than jsut getting off. its a mind set, a psycological game, but it is just that... a game.

once again, just speaking for myself here of course

ok, thats fair enough. Its just play for you. But why do you fantasize about it though? Fantasies give us an outlet to do what we really want to do. You say it unleashes your dark side. Ok, I guess spider man had a dark side too....but that side did get unleashed. What you say doesnt make very complete sense to me.

However, I will say this. When you have fantasies, you dream about the real concept of it. The man who fantasizes about the beautiful woman he met, he imagines breaking into her house, finding her, ties her up, violates her in a gruesome way..this makes him excited and he masturbates to this. He watches a movie where a woman is raped and this excites him. He see's the word "rape" on the evening news, and his ears perk up, he tunes in because this is special to him. And why shouldnt he? He wouldnt just snear and say "oh well" because like I said, it is a very special concept for him. However, he IS most likely to say "What a bastard that did this, it makes my blood boil, I want to kill him" You know why he says this? Reaction formation. Yep, he is making a very strong effort to compensate for his violent impulses and desires, in which he is very conscious of. Or he projects them onto the real criminal. He feels so guilty about his rape fantasies, he has to overdue these emotions just to prove to himself that he is not a monster. All a defense mechanism. Thats really all I see when I peek through the threads and see numerous self proclaimed "perverts" jump on the real rape crime as if they were on a roid rage.

In film class one day, we saw a clip from "A Clockwork Orange". Not a terribly interesting rape scene, it left me unsatisfied. However, the guy next to me couldnt stop talking about it once it was over. He says to me all this crap like "I feel like punching someone now, that pisses me off, I respect woman way too much for this shit, blah blah blah..." ok buddy. I am almost positive after class he rented the movie and went home and masturbated to it.

Now I am all for acting out fantasies and roleplaying...because it is a substitution for the real deal, and it is the only thing that will do because the consequences of the real crime are serious.

However, Real life breeds fantasy. There is a very, very thin and blurry line if there is even all that much line at all. People like to watch watch violence through movies and I've known some who even liked to watch real violence, through street fights and videos of that and murder. But how many of these people fantasize about murdering someone? Is there such a thin line between real life and fantasy. I'm one to say I dont think so. How many people here have fantasized about killing someone?

Like I said before, I believe firmly it is all a matter of self restraint, ethics, and fear of the legal system. Boys, I believe you are only one hair of a difference from a real rapist. The only difference is that you have self restraint and of course fear the legal system, and have a sense of wrong. So next time you call a real rapist a slew of names, stop, back up, and think about what you and him have in common. There are different types of rapists...there are sadistic rapists; which many of you fit the bill, going by what you post (fit the bill quite well actually), the Power rapist; which is what we were told to believe as women that rape is all about. Most of you fit the bill here...going just by what I read. Its really just something to think about really. People jump all over pedophiles and rightfully so. Most people dont fantasize about pedophilia as it is a horrific thing. If you do, and you admit it, you are automatically a freak and a pedophile in most minds. Something else to think about.

How do you fantasize about hurting a women, yet say that you wouldnt "want" to in real life. Of course you want to! but you are not criminals...although you are equiped with that "rapist" mentality, you practice a good life. So cheers to everyone. I am very proud of all of you. Just like the fat kid who DIDNT eat cake!

No no serious, I really mean the above

I am probably one of the very few people here who admits that I like the concept of real rape. It intrigues me. I even wonder about myself. It would be ridiculous of me to think that I'm only into the fantasy and ignore the real thing, or pretend that I detest the real crime when really I am curious about how it would feel. I dont advocate the crime, as I hate all crime. I just look at this from a psychological standpoint.

What my bottom line is, is that everyone here has that rapist mentality. I mean, come on, I have read enough disturbing stuff here to leave my jaw dropped open. But you arent a rapist untill you have crossed the line and done the crime. But everyone here is equipped with rapist tendencies, and these tendencies dont know a difference between fantasy and reality.

[star67]

I understand what you are saying, Ragman.

Personally, real rape has no interest for me. I've been harassed and groped and i hated it every time. My fantasies are very 'fantasy'... Sometimes involving people who look like me but who aren't really me... I don't even use my own name. Reading about certain real rape or sexual assault cases fills me with a real rage and bile... Especially if there is a light/no sentence. Sorry if that's hard to believe, that's just the way it is.

What goes on in my head is not an invitation, but fair enough if it is for you.

[shysnale]

Originally Posted by asianpope

You know, It's all fine and dandy put on in some movies and stuff... But what do you really think about it? I'm just curious.

No, we just fantasize about it. Or joke about it. Sex is the main thing. Rape fantasy just derives from brutal sex in bed with your well built man.

No Crime encouraged. Just fun.

[italianguy]

Originally Posted by star67

I understand what you are saying, Ragman.

Personally, real rape has no interest for me. I've been harassed and groped and i hated it every time. My fantasies are very 'fantasy'... Sometimes involving people who look like me but who aren't really me... I don't even use my own name. Reading about certain real rape or sexual assault cases fills me with a real rage and bile... Especially if there is a light/no sentence. Sorry if that's hard to believe, that's just the way it is.

What goes on in my head is not an invitation, but fair enough if it is for you.

This is so funny.

So you pass all your day searching for real rape news but you like just the fantasy, not real rape.

[touriquet2001]

Originally Posted by italianguy

This is so funny.

So you pass all your day searching for real rape news but you like just the fantasy, not real rape.

nice to see you are still ASSuming without any facts to back them up .

do you know what a newspaper is ? try reading one for a week , you can not go without seeing an assault or rape story in one .

if that post ,(like all of yours), wasn't such a sad statement on yourself , it might be funny

[star67]

Originally Posted by italianguy

This is so funny.

So you pass all your day searching for real rape news but you like just the fantasy, not real rape.

Thanks, Touri. Yeah. There's not much else to add... It's called real life. I'm not sure if they have newspapers or televisions in Italy but occasionally I come across them here...

I didn't say I wasn't fascinated by the psychology of it. I read crimelibrary a lot. What's that got to do with whether I have empathy for victims or not? Just because I'm not a sociopath like a few people around here doesn't mean I'm lying to make myself look good. *shrug*

I'm not angry by the way (a pointless endeavour with you) but it'd be nice if you had something to back up your random attacks.

[italianguy]

Originally Posted by touriquet2001

nice to see you are still ASSuming without any facts to back them up .

do you know what a newspaper is ? try reading one for a week , you can not go without seeing an assault or rape story in one .

if that post ,(like all of yours), wasn't such a sad statement on yourself , it might be funny

lol, you too read newspapers for rape stories.

Stop giving such stupid excuses, like "it's on the newspaper, it's for news not for masturbating", you are not informed people, you are perverts.

Newspapers and television news publish a lot of pornography (killing, torture, rape, etc.) because this kind of pornography can only be published masking it with some sort of literary, artistic, political or scientific value or it will considered obscene.

Stressing that it's on the newspaper is only a way to not to not feel guilty, it "legitimates" your need for this kind of stuff for the superior moral imperative to be informed, I mean you didn't search for it in a obscure forum of perverts, it was so practically put for you into the package of things that you MUST read to be a fellow citizen.

I mean when you find a title about rape you jump to it with your heart pumping like a piston and you eagerly read every single detail of the story, but you think "you stupid italianguy, it's not for perverts, it's in the package of things that someone has decided I have to read to be a good person, how can I be a pervert? lol you asshole, my logic is too l33t for you"

[Sternenlied]

Originally Posted by italianguy

lol you asshole, my logic is too l33t for you

And here's your next ban ... for insults outside the Rowdy Room.
This is your 3rd and final warning. See you in 6 months.
Next time you'll be banned permanently.

[touriquet2001]

more attacking without any facts to back it up ....

Originally Posted by italianguy

lol, you too read newspapers for rape stories.

Stop giving such stupid excuses, like "it's on the newspaper, it's for news not for masturbating", you are not informed people, you are perverts.

i think most of us probably read newspapers for the news . most of us care about what goes on in our town , state , country and yes even around the world . just because you don't , doesn't mean we all are like you .

Originally Posted by italianguy

Newspapers and television news publish a lot of pornography (killing, torture, rape, etc.) because this kind of pornography can only be published masking it with some sort of literary, artistic, political or scientific value or it will considered obscene.

maybe those trash rags you read have pornography in them . the "news"papers i read don't . they try to report the facts of a story .

Originally Posted by italianguy

Stressing that it's on the newspaper is only a way to not to not feel guilty, it "legitimates" your need for this kind of stuff for the superior moral imperative to be informed, I mean you didn't search for it in a obscure forum of perverts, it was so practically put for you into the package of things that you MUST read to be a fellow citizen.

not going to get into "morals" with you as you've shown you don't have any or even understand the concept of them .

Originally Posted by italianguy

Stressing that it's on the newspaper is only a way to not to not feel guilty, it "legitimates" your need for this kind of stuff for the superior moral imperative to be informed, I mean you didn't search for it in a obscure forum of perverts, it was so practically put for you into the package of things that you MUST read to be a fellow citizen.

I mean when you find a title about rape you jump to it with your heart pumping like a piston and you eagerly read every single detail of the story, but you think "you stupid italianguy, it's not for perverts, it's in the package of things that someone has decided I have to read to be a good person, how can I be a pervert? lol you asshole, my logic is too l33t for you"

ok , so now we know why you pick up a newspaper . ascribing your motives to us doesn't make it true . there you go again talking without any facts to back up your statements. as was stated elsewhere .... there is a difference for most of us between real life and our fantasies .

Originally Posted by italianguy

my logic is too l33t for you

i've yet to see you use logic .

[ezzdx]

I was expecting he will banned again,but as he banned now and couldn't reply I won't say any thing to him.
but I want to say something to the members who supported him by giving him positive rep:
Go and suck his dick
and in this time I don't mean by .

[star67]

Originally Posted by italianguy

blah blah blah i'm projecting because i have no logical arguments blah blah

Whatever you say, son. See you in 6.

[Fibonacci]

Originally Posted by ezzdx

I was expecting he will banned again,but as he banned now and couldn't reply I won't say any thing to him.
but I want to say something to the members who supported him by giving him positive rep:
Go and suck his dick ...
and in this time I don't mean by .

I did. Once. For two reasons:

1) I have nothing against him, I don't know him, I just noticed him for his big neg reputation and all the hating responses for nearly all his posts I've read here. If this all was true and necessary, why making a star from him as the most hated person on RB ever (well, I am not here long, maybe there were more such a people here).

2) This one his post was kind of funny to me I know it was meant ironically, but still.

So ... no, I don't want to suck his dick, as I don't want to suck any other dick or lick any pussy or ass of any member here. I just can spread my reps as I feel it and I do this. Maybe he is the right ass to be kicked out of here, I'll not miss him, but I like a bit of controversy and sometimes it was fun to read his posts, and especially the responses to them

Originally Posted by italianguy

Why did ChiTownHoney harass him and not me? I feel so jealous. A lot of people here would pay to be harassed by her, you lucky boy stop complaining.

And just to get back to original topic ...

I dream of rape and I love rape fantasy. I don't do that, cause mainly I am afraid of the consequences in law. And cause I don't hurt anyone or anything just for my pleasure (this is I think my conscience who guards me).

But if I'd be so powerful and out of law already (like drug lords or pirates in past), I'd probably do that . I am happy today you can live your fantasy a little and not harm anyone - thanks this board too

[ezzdx]

Originally Posted by Fibonacci

I did. Once. For two reasons:

1) I have nothing against him, I don't know him, I just noticed him for his big neg reputation and all the hating responses for nearly all his posts I've read here. If this all was true and necessary, why making a star from him as the most hated person on RB ever (well, I am not here long, maybe there were more such a people here).

2) This one his post was kind of funny to me I know it was meant ironically, but still.

So ... no, I don't want to such his dick, as I don't want to suck any other dick or lick any pussy or ass of any member here. I just can spread my reps as I feel it and I do this. Maybe he is the right ass to be kicked out of here, I'll not miss him, but I like a bit of controversy and sometimes it was fun to read his posts, and especially the responses to them

I appreciate your frankness and although I don't agree with you but if his posts were funny for you and you liked them no one could forced you to say the opposite and you are free to give your rep as you see.
and I hope to see the others reasons for supporting him.

[Sternenlied]

People please ... everyone is allowed to state his opinion here. Giving reputation to members - may it be positive or negative - is also every single member's own decision.
Who gave whom reputation for whatever reason is none of other people's business. Nobody should feel the need to attack or offend other members for it and not a single one here should feel obliged to defend or explain oneself for it. Nobody is!
So everyone ... give this issue a rest accept the fact that some members might like members and posts you don't.

[shysnale]

Hi ChiTownHoney.

Sometimes I had the feeling that you could let yourself go in some interesting while simplistic thoughts. I will not allow myself to judge you from that post you just made but I am very surprised and I refuse to believe you are for real because I think you are an interesting person. The fact that you can't conceive imagination in one man mind can have no limits and evolve free from real pulsions is really disappointing me. Basically what you are saying is that you've read so much insanity and vicious threads here that you have no doubt some of us just need to find a dark alley to become real rapists.

OK.

I agree with you on one thing, the people of this forum are not afraid to talk about their fantasies and that's why I like them. I am aware I made some really horrible twisted post myself. I guess you would agree on saying what makes a post scary are the ideas of what can be done to a woman about to be raped. It's the imagination part that scares you. You have a hard time to imagine someone writing a post with strange ideas cannot have found these ideas without real experience. I beg to differ on that.

Your imagination can be free from your real life. I do believe a happy and healthy person is someone who finds himself satisfied in both things :

- Affection
- Work

Basically, I do believe someone who is engaged with a woman in a real respectful love relation and has a job that satisfies him, is a person that has the most important things from life to feed his mind and body. A stable and healthy person. From that, he can, if he wants, keep that situation until the rest of his life and be happy. Does that mean such a person has no imagination and could never be creative artistically speaking and come up with strange ideas ? Do you think making a family and a home is to lobotomize your imagination ? As long as someone has blossom intellectually and affectively, then his imagination can go in every direction without be driven by any frustration.

Look at someone like the movie maker Ridley Scott who came up with the movie 'Alien' based on the idea of small extra terrestrials looking a bit like spiders, jumping on you and forcing their dicks down your throat to put a seed in your stomach that later on becomes a real living creature that shreds out your tummy and comes to the world through the pieces of who you were ? Have you ever seen something that bad from posters here ?

Do you realize Riddley Scott made that movie in 1979 ? Do you really think all these ideas came from experience ? Do you think he has been raped by a big tropical spider ? Do you realized 'Alien' was his 11th movie so his movie maker career was well based and confirmed. Do you know he has been in couple with 'Felicity Heywood' for 12 years, then dated Sandy Watson for 11 years ?

Things are not that simple, people are complicated, we are not just predictable sheeps. I know my imagination can go very far, but the worst thing I did in my life is vandalism with my brother when I was a teenager. No pussies broken. You probably have a lot to teach me about love and sex, I know you're a pretty successful lady with man but please open your mind and listen to a lonely virgin like me, I may have also few things to tell you.