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Old 05-19-2007, 07:25 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Just saw some sick porno on the net, should be illegal!

just searching for some celebrity fake rape pics, (like liz hurley to reply to that earlier thread) when i came across something that literally turned my stomach. Theres a whole load of child stars faces been faked onto lolita style porn. Man that shit was sick! cant believe it surely its gotta be illegal!? I saw that girl off Harry potter in twisted shit man. Cant believe it. Its just wrong.
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You mean Emma Watson...? And what do you mean by "fake children porn pictures"? Were the heads of children on adult bodies or what? Could I have the link, please? Just curious, nothing pedophilical about it...
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You mean Emma Watson...? And what do you mean by "fake children porn pictures"? Were the heads of children on adult bodies or what? Could I have the link, please? Just curious, nothing pedophilical about it...

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Old 05-20-2007, 05:31 PM   #4
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Ever heard of Dakota Fenning (12) starring in "Hounddog"? Its a big mainstream picture and has a controvers rape scene in it - now, im not interested in child porn and such stuff the least bit, but i keep hearing "this is forbidden" "dont mention this and that" all across the board... ok, just asking myself generally
- if MAINSTREAM gets more liberal than this side, could it possibly be that SOME of You should rethink their self-cencorship?!
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well, that was in a legit movie and was tastefully done and there was no real intercourse! there is a total difference between mainstream movie small scenes and pornos where these poor kids are being basically really raped for peoples sick pleasures, its terribly wrong! id advise you to avoid that stance on here, and count your lucky fucking stars innocent wasnt here to see that!!! (imo that may deserve a warning, but im a real hardass so :P)
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There's definately a difference between simulated and real rape, but the idea of kids being involved creeps me out regardless. The saddest thing I ever heard of, was in this book about protecting children from internet predators. A woman found porn on her husband's computer--child porn, one of them, the rape of a three-year-old girl. Disgusting. How sick do you have to be to get off to that?
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well, that was in a legit movie and was tastefully done and there was no real intercourse! there is a total difference between mainstream movie small scenes and pornos where these poor kids are being basically really raped for peoples sick pleasures, its terribly wrong! id advise you to avoid that stance on here, and count your lucky fucking stars innocent wasnt here to see that!!! (imo that may deserve a warning, but im a real hardass so :P)
I think if You carefully read my post it should be clear that i have NONWHATSOEVER interest in promoting things as child pornography - and i gladly repeat that once and for all!! I especially agree to the difference between a carefully made fake scene and the open brutality of the porn biz (I'm just wondering whether RB would accept such a difference?! So make sure YOU get no warning for calling this scene "tasteful"...)
IF u read my words carefully u may also see that my questioning of the taboos on RB are NOT specifically adressed to any underage-things, but to sth more general involving numerous taboos. I'm just stating that i for my part was attracted by the name of this site and some of its content, but being confronted with taboos that exist HERE but basicly nowhere else anymore, is somewhat confusing... lets just look who agrees or disagrees with the personal opinions of the both of us!
I'm willing to leave it there...
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I have two blog posts that deal with this issue.....check them out, some of the comments are interesting....


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Old 05-21-2007, 03:05 AM   #9
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i dont even think it is suitable in a arty film really, theres no need, you could tell the story without having the scene just as well. Anyway i still want to know why its not illegal to make fake porn pics of underage kids, its well out of order. and no i dont have a link nor would i post it anyway!
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now, im not interested in child porn and such stuff the least bit, but i keep hearing "this is forbidden" "dont mention this and that" all across the board... ok, just asking myself generally
- if MAINSTREAM gets more liberal than this side, could it possibly be that SOME of You should rethink their self-cencorship?!
From what I see, Vivienne wasn't advocating child porn, per se. I believe her point was to ask why everyone at this site acts "overly" careful (her opinion) about this subject in any "real" context here at RB. While.. at the same time.. there's a huge motion picture out in the public where it's not just mentioned, referred to, or hinted about..... but simulated and depicted with as much realism as they could possibly get away with.

Well.. think about that. There's a huge difference between that (the movie) and what goes on here (the RB website). Wouldn't you imagine that a rich/powerful movie studio has sufficient resources to hire the very best team of lawyers and other legal experts before they started filming? They know exactly how far they can go to get that movie past all the censors -- and keep themselves out of prison when all the (inevitable) protestors pool their resources in moral outrage to go after them.

How could that compare to a little, (comparatively) obscure website forum like this? I seriously doubt the folks behind the scenes here at RB have a similar legal team waiting in the wings to rush in with legal advice and full representation every time someone bitches about how sick they think we are for even talking about forced sex fantasies. No matter who is hosting the site, there's a very fine line that can't be crossed without it all being shut down. That's why the posting rules are written as they are and that's why we all have to agree to abide by them if we wish to participate here.

That's not self-censorship on the part of a few members... those are very specific rules/conditions that must be followed to keep this site up and running.
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Ok, you people are way overblowing this child porn thing... Both rape and child sex is illegal. Why would fantasiezing about rape be ok and fantacizing about child sex not? I don't like child sex, but I just wanted to prove you that you defie basic logics... I found some sick logic-based ideas [Deleted by moderator] Yeah, I know moraly speaking they're sick, but they're logical.
P.S.: Sorry about he spelling mistakes, English is not my first language.

Agree with it or don't but we won't have that kind of "logic" on the board. Don't even bother arguing about it, it won't do any good. And don't even bother posting any more stuff like that as well. We let this conversation go because it was a rational discussion not violating board rules but comments like this one are way beyond the line. We won't condone child porn in any way, not even via an external blog like this!

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Ok, you people are way overblowing this child porn thing... Both rape and child sex is illegal. Why would fantasiezing about rape be ok and fantacizing about child sex not? I don't like child sex, but I just wanted to prove you that you defie basic logics... I found some sick logic-based ideas
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There is no need to prove something to someone. Mods and most members are well aware about the contradiction of this rule. This conversation has been done again and i believe its annoying to some.
But, this rule of rb works well for the moment and since not many people around this board like child sex (including you ), there is no need to start a debate about it.
Trying to stick with the point of the thread, yes Darkman, it should be illegal.
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Ever heard of Dakota Fenning (12) starring in "Hounddog"? Its a big mainstream picture and has a controvers rape scene in it - now, im not interested in child porn and such stuff the least bit, but i keep hearing "this is forbidden" "dont mention this and that" all across the board... ok, just asking myself generally
- if MAINSTREAM gets more liberal than this side, could it possibly be that SOME of You should rethink their self-cencorship?!
Well, there's more than one point here:
We are not a mainstream movie. There are enough people out in the world debating about visual violence in mainstream movies already. Many people are against excessive cinematic violence. And there's even more people who would like to bring a website like ours down. Unlike in a movie there's no story here, no background to the characters, no drama, no whatsoever. It's purely about rape fantasy so we can't expect a lot of understanding from people not into this. So - aside from the legal issues - we can't compare ourselves to the movie industry.
Besides mainstream becoming more "liberal" - could as well be more "hard-nosed" - isn't necessarily a good thing. Look at movies like "Hostel" or the "Saw"-series ... just getting sicker and more cruel. Maybe not everybody likes that. Just take a look at "Irreversible" for example. It's a regular movie so no offense in talking about it (even though the scene many of our members love is about real rape) but still I almost threw up from the rape scene.
However our members can't think out any "self"-censorship, it's board policy leaving members no choice. Some disagree, some even make good points about that issue but right now there's no point in arguing about it. Rapeboard has decided to keep underage porn out and we all stand by that decision.

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I think if You carefully read my post it should be clear that i have NONWHATSOEVER interest in promoting things as child pornography - and i gladly repeat that once and for all!! I especially agree to the difference between a carefully made fake scene and the open brutality of the porn biz (I'm just wondering whether RB would accept such a difference?! So make sure YOU get no warning for calling this scene "tasteful"...)
That is exactly the reason why there was no warning and he isn't going to get a warning as well. It's a regular movie, no problem in talking about it.
Child pornography - aside from the fact I think it's sick - is illegal however.
So yes, we actually see a difference.

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From what I see, Vivienne wasn't advocating child porn, per se. I believe her point was to ask why everyone at this site acts "overly" careful (her opinion) about this subject in any "real" context here at RB. While.. at the same time.. there's a huge motion picture out in the public where it's not just mentioned, referred to, or hinted about..... but simulated and depicted with as much realism as they could possibly get away with.
See above.
Also: As I already told other members when they ask about it (can't remember the thread now but it's there) it's not only about legal trouble it's also about some members asking us to keep child porn out of Rapeboard.
The movie industry however makes sure there'll be no legal trouble before they produce and air a movie with a context like that. So although I haven't seen that specific movie I'm quite sure there's no pornography in it (even the infamous "Irreversible" didn't show anything pornographic).
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Agree with it or don't but we won't have that kind of "logic" on the board. Don't even bother arguing about it, it won't do any good. And don't even bother posting any more stuff like that as well. We let this conversation go because it was a rational discussion not violating board rules but comments like this one are way beyond the line. We won't condone child porn in any way, not even via an external blog like this!
Do what you wish, my dears... but you people are quite weird for a bunch of rape obsessed maniacs... Whatever... You're the one paying for the hosting, so... be my guest: delete whatever you want...
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i dont even think it is suitable in a arty film really, theres no need, you could tell the story without having the scene just as well. Anyway i still want to know why its not illegal to make fake porn pics of underage kids, its well out of order. and no i dont have a link nor would i post it anyway!
hear fucking hear !!!!!!

too fucking right...darkman well said !!

anyone interested in children like that should get the balaclava/cctv treatment !!!!!!!!!
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