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Old 10-08-2017, 12:04 AM   #341
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Yet here we are, still prosecuting Nazi prison camp guards over 70 years later. Or looking for some one to blame for football stadium disasters after nearly 30 years.
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Old 10-09-2017, 07:10 PM   #342
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The Nazi war criminal analogy doesn't really apply. There was nothing that happened during the troubles that rivaled the pure evil of the Nazis.

The problem in the north is that there are two almost numerically equal populations that have totally different views of recent history. Given there is no way to prosecute every offence, it just makes sense to clise the book on it all. Anything after good Friday should be vigoursly prosecuted.
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My understanding is that anyone charged with offences pre-Good Friday agreement won't serve any jail time if they are found guilty. The process seems to be just about closing files on historic cases.
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no, you can still receive a two year prison sentence for pre good Friday offences. and it's not clear if this applies to members of the security forces.

Here is the problem, who do you choose to prosecute? An IRA ambush, armed combat with the British army that resulted in the deaths of British soldiers. Under the law this is murder.

another example, less clear. I can't recall the details, but two RUC constables on foot patrol. Two IRA volunteers walked up behind them and shot them both in the back of the head. Two armed agents of the state killed in combat, or two policemen murdered doing their jobs?

Or do you limit prosecution to the killing of civilians? the loyalists were allergic to engaging an opponent who might be able to shoot back. But republicans killed civilians as well. Do you prosecute the Enniskillen bombers? How about the execution of British informers?

One of the most horrific episodes of the troubles was the Shanklill butchers. a loyalist gang that kidnaped nationalist civilians, tortured, mutilated and murdered them. The provos tracked down the leader of the butchers, and shot him to death leaving his mothers home. My point here being, regardless of the victim being a degenerate animal, does this allow the state to excuse what under the law was the murder of an a unarmed civilian.

All these questions can be put to bed with a general amnesty.

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All these questions can be put to bed with a general amnesty.
I thought they had that already? Obviously I was mistaken.
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There is no amnesty for British soldiers. Only paramilitaries.

My personal thought is that there should be justice, but that justice is better served if tgere is also peace. All involved should be immune from punishment, but there needs to be some sort of system where by we ccan discover who did what. So that people can look at members of their own community and know for certain who the killers were. Make up
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