Reasons for rape fantasies ?

[the savage]

I think I have these fantasies just as an offshoot of my personality. Very me first, getting what I want simply because I want it, regardless of what anyone else thinks. In a fantasy setting that becomes I find an attractive victim and get exactly what I want from her while she is completely helpless to stop me.

[pervipete]

I'm not really sure why I'm into all this stuff, I just am, although mine are more along the lines of blackmailing or taking advantage of someone that I would not normally be able to have, someone out of my league sort of thing.

[titbag]

Rape is purely about control. Why else would men rape old women? They ain't good lookin'.

You rape fantasy guys kinda scare me. Rapists and child molesters are the two people I hate most in this world because of the damage they inflict on others. Raping a helpless woman doesn't make you big, mean, and powerful.

As for the girls: I'm not really sure what to think about you. I think it's a bit odd and somewhat worrisome. I guess you're turned on by men asserting extreme power over you?

Anyhow, you choose how to live your life. Good luck.

[FuckingRotter]

I'm already big and mean, it just saves me forking out for dinner first.

Originally Posted by titbag

Raping a helpless woman doesn't make you big, mean, and powerful.

[Fae]

Originally Posted by titbag

Rape is purely about control. Why else would men rape old women? They ain't good lookin'.

You rape fantasy guys kinda scare me. Rapists and child molesters are the two people I hate most in this world because of the damage they inflict on others. Raping a helpless woman doesn't make you big, mean, and powerful.

As for the girls: I'm not really sure what to think about you. I think it's a bit odd and somewhat worrisome. I guess you're turned on by men asserting extreme power over you?

Anyhow, you choose how to live your life. Good luck.

Titbag, why are you even here?

Female perspective: whatever part of my brain makes me attracted to these types of fantasies, I choose to fulfill them in a fantasy setting. I've had these fantasies since I was in high school. I choose to find a place to play out my fantasies that I like rather than pretend a part of me doesn't exist that already does.

These days, part of it is I spend most of my life being in control, at work I run my department in a industry that woman are almost never seen let alone in charge and most of the people I hire all guys. At work I'm in control all the time, in my sex life I really don't want to be.

I really do like feeling out of control, that's the biggest rush. Also fear and other emotions from rape fantasies also come with an adrenaline rush. Also, good use of pain makes a person more sensitive in general. All are partial reasons for a woman to be into these fantasies. No real simple answer to why we're into it and it probably varies from person to person. It's not unhealthy for either the guys or the gals unless they take it off the board and away from consensual role playing, basically they take it into the real thing.

[Flesh4Fantasy]

Originally Posted by titbag

Rape is purely about control. Why else would men rape old women? They ain't good lookin'.

You rape fantasy guys kinda scare me. Rapists and child molesters are the two people I hate most in this world because of the damage they inflict on others. Raping a helpless woman doesn't make you big, mean, and powerful.

As for the girls: I'm not really sure what to think about you. I think it's a bit odd and somewhat worrisome. I guess you're turned on by men asserting extreme power over you?

Anyhow, you choose how to live your life. Good luck.

*sniffs* Smells like Troll - and not a very good one either...

[Cuff]

Originally Posted by Flesh4Fantasy

Ha - there I am backwards... I don't think about rape so often as some B&D scenario where she is my willing toy and I take advantage of that surrender. My desire is to prove to her that she is much better off when she allows me to take charge of her sexuality...

Control and humiliations abound, to be sure.

I prefer for her to willingly submit and give me carte blanche to exercise my perverted desires upon her flesh. I delight in surprising her with devious, inventive torments to make her quiver ecstatically. Alternating tender, passionate interludes with degradation, humiliation and deviant experimentation.

Originally Posted by justmetoo

Great question. But not one so easy to answer.

Of course there is the humiliation. I love the idea of a victim struggling her best to keep me at bay. I'd want to be looking into her eyes at each step of the rape. Since my idea is her tied up to the bed there would be several stages. First would be when her hands/arms were tied apart. Next when I have her legs tied wide apart. Then there are the various stages of getting her clothes off. The look in her eyes as I ripped/cut her bra and panties off, each time with her being a bit more exposed. That is a big part of it.

I like the control aspect. Perhaps I will get her wet against her will. Not for her pleasure for for me to show here I control everything. The fact that she is tied spread eagle reinforces that. I like the idea of her having an orgasm despite her predicament. I could care less that her body reacts, it is the idea that I am in control.

I like the pain aspect too. Taking her in the ass for someone not used to it would be painful. I like the idea of using nipple clamps on her while recharging myself between sessions. Put them on nice and tight. Wait 10 minutes and then watch her wince in pain when the blood flows back into her nips when I remove them.

Finally, there is the pleasure I would have. The idea of fucking a gal when she is struggling to escape my attack interests me greatly. I'd love it if she continued to struggle at her bonds the entire time. It sure doesn't fit into my fantasy that she just lies there. I want her whole body trying to get away from me. A moving pussy or ass would make a fine target.

The last thing that fits into my fantasy would be a combination of a group of guys waiting to fuck her. Maybe they'd do round robin on her for a while. Better yet, the husband is there, forced to watch. I wonder if he'd get hard? Maybe have the wife blow him while she is getting it doggie style.

There are many components I guess to my fantasies. Hopefully this explains a bit of it.

Originally Posted by GOATBOY

I just find victimised women more feminine

Being a female, those are the mentalities I lust over.

Originally Posted by Jaozi

From a victim side and someone who is into "gentle rape" (I mean, some bruising, hair pulling, slapping, dragging, bondage, verbal abuse is okay, cutting or actually punching is a no-no)

There's a couple of reasons for me, first off, I like a guy who is, while perhaps not extremely brutal, strong, decisive, knows what he wants, definitely I'm into the dominating type.

Secondly, one of the major turn-ons for me is the partner, which is why I'm not much into blindfolding or positions that prevent me from seeing them, I just love watching their bodies move and especially the, pardon the poetry, "look of lust on their faces", which is why I'm so disappointed in a lot of straight porn that doesn't show the guy is actually having fun. Sometimes when we're learning each other with someone and there's like "want me to do this" I can't help but go like "do what you want dammit, I find it sexiest that you're being turned on by something you're doing to me!"

Thirdly, and this is probably the major factor psychologically: I find (roleplayed) rape and bondage to be, ironically, so goddamn relaxing. I mean, the dominant partner is doing so much of the job. Clearly I can't just lie there like a log but still, I'm somewhat insecure about my own abilities at guessing what someone enjoys and in this case they'll simply let me know and "guide" me (even if the actual guiding takes form of grabbing my hair and pulling me to my knees), in a rape roleplay situation it's ideal because any awkwardness on my part works in my favour XD

I am very much like you. I want to be completely dominated and made entirely vulnerable. I am, in general, an extremely dominant person regarding everything but sexual relationships (and my fiance 'wears the pants'). I love being submissive to a man, and only a man, even if is forced.

Honestly, as long as we are psycho-analyzing ourselves, I know why i fantasize about being raped. Rape is a very dark part of my childhood, but it was in an entirely different way. I was threatened, intimidated, lied to, beaten, etc. All it ever did was fuel hatred for him, instead of having his desired effect of training me into submissiveness.

I want to betray myself, and have a man force me to completely submit to him, through my body's own weakness. I want to be forced into submission because he could not - as a form of mockery towards the man who ruined my life.

My fiance holds my neck in his hand when we fuck against the wall, softly caresses my throat with his thumb - not to choke me in the least. Just so the thought is in the back of my mind, and i am enjoying the subtle threat the entire time. The fact that I know he wouldn't but could, or that hes playing softly among my physical weakness, is a tremendous bonding thing.

[mercmonkey]

Long time lurker here, just figured I'd put in my .02. I generally hear how rape is all about control and not about sex, but its definitely something I don't get. I don't fantasize about raping a woman because I dislike her or need to 'control' something. I fantasize because I'm sexually attracted to her and some part of me enjoys the idea of just taking it.

[Roger]

Originally Posted by college_gurl

Hi All,
I'm a little curious as to why so many men have rape fantasies. What is it about rape that you like so much ? Is it the feeling of control or just the thought of humiliating a girl for being bitchy. I know some guys like rape fantasies but not so much Bondage and S&M ? I was curious to know your thoughts..
What do you enjoy most about the fantasy ?

To satisy this!

I can get pretty much any girl I want the normal way (askin em' out)

But I used to be restrained by my parents, so I incorporated anger into sex. That started my fantasies. I want to make it very clear, hurting a girl is wrong! Very simple. Still the idea of forcing a girl to stand, or sit, or whatever while I feel her against her will always enthralls me.

Control is the main issue for almost all involved with rape. The idea of having a human being completely helpless, gets a lot of men excited, and then there are women who find the idea of being a toy, to be a turn-on. All of us have fantasies of control. I think the main question has to be:
"Why do we feel we need this control so much?"

[cryptic]

From another female's point of view...
Partly, it's a morbid fascination: Anything that initially terrifies me eventually fascinates me.

So if something really traumatic happens, I respond by becoming utterly fascinated by all aspects of it. Re-creating and revisiting the scenario, feeling drawn to those who remind me of the trauma, looking at it from every angle in order to try and understand it completely.

Rape is dark, violent, sick, hateful...and I revel in it; am drawn to every aspect of it.

I want to feel that the rapist is deriving pleasure from my pain.
I want my tears to excite him.
To be used, torn at, held down, and left with absolutely no choice - it's about a wish to be able to provide a much darker, more intense pleasure than would ever be possible through consentual sex...it's about expressing the violence within ourselves.
It's about not knowing where lust ends and hate begins.

Also....and this is sort of embarrassing to admit... i'm pretty sure it's partly an insecurity/ego thing. We all fear being rejected, and sexual rejection is a major blow to the ego. Therefore, being forced sexually is, in a crazy sort of way, really reassuring. If we are held down and not given the option of saying no (or, god forbid, yes ), it's the polar opposite of rejection. It makes a girl feel wanted.

[Flesh4Fantasy]

So very well said, cryptic...

Food for thought.

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[fawcett]

For me it’s about seeing girls dressed modestly in suits or dresses but wearing a pretty lace trimmed full slip underneath then being humiliated by being forcefully stripped , not like they dress often these days, sluts, trying to be one of the lads wearing revealing clothes or trousers. My first job back in 1977 was in an office block where there were hundreds of girls dressed in suits and dresses and back then they wore a lace trimmed slip underneath, hose and high heels. As I went about my business I would every day see young women whose lace trimmed slip would be showing under her skirt as she sat at the desk or better still if she was wearing a wrap over skirt that were popular back then and had forgotten that the wrap had fallen open to show her slip underneath. Girls were so feminine then and the Christmas parties were great. I had lots of girlfriends back then and even one who agreed to have her clothes torn off! It was an article in a mens magazine that gave me the idea it centred on simulating forced sex and we read it together and she liked the idea.
We bought nearly new clothes from a Charity/Thrift shop, a business suit with blouse and a lace trimmed full slip for her and clothes for me. I set it up one night when we had a fair bit to drink and had placed small cuts in the clothing to make it easier to tear. Once I got started tearing open her blouse and skirt I became frenzied as I broke the straps of her full slip and pulled the slip to shreds. There was some wrestling slapping and hair pulling and the sex was best ever for me.
We did it quite a few times but then found we had little else in common.
When I see girls dressed modestly these days I fantasize about tearing off their smart business suits or dresses ruining their lace trimmed full slip (not many wear one these days) pulling their hair and having my way with them.
I also subscribe to a Catfighting site called Femmefight where the owners have set up some great catfights between their models for me. I provided the clothes bought in sales or E-Bay and the models have been dressed in smart office wear, as nurses or schoolgirls, all wearing a slip underneath of course. A free preview can be seen at allfetishforums.com then navigate to Femmefight.

[pantyhosethief]

I think the principle reason is, because we can. Ignoring "niceties" such as the law and civilization, men can rape because (a) they are generally stronger, (b), biology - as one of my history teachers put it (oh Miss Turner, where are you now? Happy days) if a man doesn't want it, a woman can't make him have it, but if a woman doesn't want it, there's not a lot she can do.

Personally, I'm not fussy, one day I will like a good rape fantasy, the next day pictures of women in business suits will do it I think several posters have made comments to which I particularly relate:

Fawcett - about women dressing nicely. Oh yes.

Fre - Within man still exists that primitive urge to fuck. And Mercmonkey - I fantasize because I'm sexually attracted to her and some part of me enjoys the idea of just taking it. Exactly. If I know a woman well, I don't fantasise about raping her. Unless I dislike her. The way I see it, if I really dislike a guy, I'd like to beat him up, if I really dislike a woman (and she isn't a complete munter) I'd like to rape her. Civilised, huh?

Titbag - Rape is purely about control. Why else would men rape old women? They ain't good lookin'.
True. It depends on your view of good-looking. I prefer a plain girl in the street to the girl on the catwalk, as long as there's something about her.

Cleancode -
I know its strange, but its the idea of a whore. Deep down, there is a part of every man that cannot resist a whore. its that simple.
Furthermore, its enjoyable if she 'deserved it' (was teasing, being a bitch) Hmmm. She deserves it? Yes. She's an actual whore? Meh, she has to earn a living like anyone else. I'm not particurly into actual prostitutes, unless they are reluctant ones. She's a slut, but won't look at me? Yes.

You can't beat a woman who actually wants to be with you..

Ok, sometimes you can beat her... bonus

[Skirt-fun]

Originally Posted by mercmonkey

Long time lurker here, just figured I'd put in my .02. I generally hear how rape is all about control and not about sex, but its definitely something I don't get. I don't fantasize about raping a woman because I dislike her or need to 'control' something. I fantasize because I'm sexually attracted to her and some part of me enjoys the idea of just taking it.

To me that sums up alot of what I feel. I also like the hunter/prey aspect as well. The girl dressed in something sexy out on a dark night walking alone and feeling them writhing and struggling underneath me. Trying to get inside their clothes while they try to stop me. I know that may sound like a power thing, but to me its between two equals and if they escape then that is what makes the fantasy all the more exhillerating, there isnt any definte outcome and if I get the goods then its much more enjoyable. Rape for me is driven by pure lust and taking a forbidden fruit.

[qkazoo]

hi. i go to a more existentialist approach and say simply (probably too simply):

at times we want to control other people as object. humans are being-for-itself (i.e. have consciousness) and objects are being-in-itself (i.e. non-consciousness). but one see others as both being-in-itself and being-for-itself.

[intro to sartean existentialism put badly in three sentences]

so, for a real rapist what he is doing is deny the being-for-itself not just for the victim but also for himself. a real rapist make a object out of himself because he acts in bad faith. he wants to be an object to his own desires. control plays apart yes but what he wants to lose control of himself and the victim but he cant flea for "man is condemned to be free". but for the victim she still free but powerless. a morality does not come from idea of freedom but the idea of power.

for rape fantasies and consensual sadism (where I differ from Sartre and not the only thing) is not done in bad faith. yes the fantasist see is other as an object but also see it as an being-for-itself. for he wants to be in control but he does not want give power away from the other. the other is still seen as a being-for-itself. a being that has a free choice. in consensual sex of any kind desires becomes the object for which we choice to control.


sorry if this is a shitty idea. just something i thought at 1 am

[Brutalessons]

There are many things about Rape that I just do because it feels natural... as to the whys... now that is another ball of wax. i am naturally dominate in most aspects of My life, and if truth be told a sadist as well.Now no Man is an island, and it is rarely discussed that a man capable of atrocities does not have balancing aspects that are often commendable.

Just for conversations sake i will put out a simple observation I made over the years and that is the high number of persons who are into this and other kinky behavior such as B&D and S&M who when not playing are Paramedics, EMT's, Firefighters and even cops. People to who compassion and danger are a part of daily life, and all to often the chaotic situations and the Best effort are not enough in the end.

We are adrenaline junkies, but in this aspect of our lives we have Full control. No false hero syndromes to contend with, even when justified in the eyes of others... we Know ourselves to be Mortal and Flawed.

Ying meets Yang, and in Myself, I revel in the opportunity to switch mental gears to the opposite extreme.

One last observation. I am often surprised by comments regarding Mysogyny, that in some manner I hate or detest woman.The comments are usually from those who are surprised to find the exact opposite, That for me, controling and yes guiding a victim to My desired end is done with empathy and understanding of precisely what is making things tick. When it meshes right, the relationship between aggressor and victim is nearly symbiotic.

Just My own idle musings.