Rapists & Victims, are you religious? - Rape Board

mco · 09-25-2008, 07:12 PM

I suddenly wondered, are you guys religious? Me myself, I am atheist. That does not make me feel I'm outside the bounds of rules, of course. I feel strongly about freedom and respect, for instance, and yet... having rapist fantasies. How does 'treating a woman like a slut' fit within it? I've come to the conclusion that by defining 'fantasy' and 'roleplay' it becomes constricted within a bubble. I keep surprising me in how decent man I am after all.

Anyways, what about you folks?

ravenbright · 09-26-2008, 04:36 AM

Atheist here.

Though technically since I can't claim that I've looked at all religions to compare against my current beliefs I should say agnostic, and I usually do, but since it wasn't a choice...

My basic philosophy arises from my own personal beliefs about how I perceive the world. There is no god, there is no life after death. Life's short and there is only the here and now, so we should enjoy it to our full ability as best as we can.

Nemo01 · 09-26-2008, 05:02 AM

I'm Catholic (and catholic is Christian for the people who make the poll)

mco · 09-26-2008, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ravenbright

Atheist here.

Though technically since I can't claim that I've looked at all religions to compare against my current beliefs I should say agnostic, and I usually do, but since it wasn't a choice...

My basic philosophy arises from my own personal beliefs about how I perceive the world. There is no god, there is no life after death. Life's short and there is only the here and now, so we should enjoy it to our full ability as best as we can.

Then you'd be Atheist, agonsticism implies your perspective is not a finite one.

mco · 09-26-2008, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nemo01

I'm Catholic (and catholic is Christian for the people who make the poll)

Yes, we (I) know, I liked to branch it since Catholicism is a very big branch indeed. A muslim might also claim that Christianity, Catholicism and Judaism are all part of Islam.

Stainless Steel Rat · 09-26-2008, 10:56 AM

Interesting question and would be more so still with a larger sample to draw results from. As for myself relative to your poll the only logical answer was "None of the Above". I need no church or organized religion to tell me what to think or what to believe. To try and explain my beliefs here would take far longer than I am willing to sit at a keyboard and type

So I will say simply that my beliefs are a hybrid of some others.

An agnostic-spiritualist I suppose would be close to my thinking in a very rudimentary way. I often contemplate who we are and the nature of our world and environment, from my musings I have formed my own thinking which provides the lens through which I view the world. There are certain elements of our humanity which are within everyone regardless of their choice of religions, how they choose to act on them is far more important than what belief system they profess to follow.

Cheers all from the Stainless Steel Rat

Ragman · 09-26-2008, 11:33 AM

I am a Christian. I firmly believe in the pressence of God and his son Jesus Christ. As for where my fantasies fit into the whole thing. I believe that life is a gift to be enjoyed with other people who are enjoying them. I am not really hurting anyone, I am simply enjoying the fantasy. I do not believe God will have any problem with that. If i am wrong.. well..I guess I am in trouble when the end comes

Trill · 09-26-2008, 11:54 AM

I'm Pagan, specifically Wiccan. I'm actually an ordained minister through ULC, and have formed my own church, the Claire de Lune Society of Wicca.

Now, before anyone pulls me up and says "Hey, Jim, Wiccans are supposed to shun rape because it violates the core tenets of your faith!", bear in mind that rape RP, as anyone with half a brain knows, is a world away from real rape. As long as it remains a simulation in which all acts are performed consensually with a minimum of actual harm to all parties, then it's OK.

If I were to rape for real, the Goddess would no doubt kick my sorry perverted ass.

mco · 09-26-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trill

I'm Pagan, specifically Wiccan. I'm actually an ordained minister through ULC, and have formed my own church, the Claire de Lune Society of Wicca.

Now, before anyone pulls me up and says "Hey, Jim, Wiccans are supposed to shun rape because it violates the core tenets of your faith!", bear in mind that rape RP, as anyone with half a brain knows, is a world away from real rape. As long as it remains a simulation in which all acts are performed consensually with a minimum of actual harm to all parties, then it's OK.

If I were to rape for real, the Goddess would no doubt kick my sorry perverted ass.

We've almost aquired a slice of society here.

SecretObsession · 09-26-2008, 12:24 PM

I voted Christian.
Was raised Catholic, went to parochial school for elementary and high school, started to question it's teachings in my late teens. Now I'd describe myself as spiritual, my beliefs are not specific to any one religion.

TZOFOSHO · 09-26-2008, 02:20 PM

I was raised christian, lutheran to be specific, however, a bag of mushrooms consumed while sitting on steps leading to a church when i was 16 changed all that and now i would have to vote with atheist.

lioness · 09-27-2008, 07:08 AM

Raised Catholic and also a Spiritualist.

Sternenlied · 09-28-2008, 05:36 AM

I am what a friend of mine calls "a recovering Christian".
I went to Catholic girl's school and was raised Catholic but I grew out of any supernatural beliefs. I consider myself a scientist, agnostic/atheist since I personally do not believe in the existence of any supernatural entity one still simply cannot - objectively speaking - neglect at least the possibility they might exist.

MarcEdeSade · 09-28-2008, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Trill

I'm Pagan, specifically Wiccan. I'm actually an ordained minister through ULC, and have formed my own church, the Claire de Lune Society of Wicca.

Now, before anyone pulls me up and says "Hey, Jim, Wiccans are supposed to shun rape because it violates the core tenets of your faith!", bear in mind that rape RP, as anyone with half a brain knows, is a world away from real rape. As long as it remains a simulation in which all acts are performed consensually with a minimum of actual harm to all parties, then it's OK.

If I were to rape for real, the Goddess would no doubt kick my sorry perverted ass.

Hades did WHAT to persephone?

Hugues_de_Sade · 09-28-2008, 07:10 AM

What's catholic as opposed to Christian -

mco · 09-28-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternenlied

I am what a friend of mine calls "a recovering Christian".
I went to Catholic girl's school and was raised Catholic but I grew out of any supernatural beliefs. I consider myself a scientist, agnostic/atheist since I personally do not believe in the existence of any supernatural entity one still simply cannot - objectively speaking - neglect at least the possibility they might exist.

..if you cannot - objectively speaking - neglect at least the possibility they might exist, then and only then are you agnostic, not atheist.

But it is categorized the same way..

mco · 09-28-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugues_de_Sade

What's catholic as opposed to Christian -

There's a variety of differences. What's a muslim as opposed to jews? Same god, same bullshit... different customs and ideas.

shelley · 09-28-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mco

There's a variety of differences. What's a muslim as opposed to jews? Same god, same bullshit... different customs and ideas.

bad analogy.

mco · 09-28-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by shelley

bad analogy.

Why? Let's take for example the fact that catholics don't ONLY pray to God, whereas most christians DO, Jews and Muslims as well. The second testament is supposedly an update to the first, and muslims claim their Quoran to be yet another update..

My argument may be false, but it's okay... not like god exists.

Hoselvr6164 · 09-28-2008, 01:43 PM

Pagan here as well. It would take several long (and to most - boring) paragraphs to explain exactly what I follow - so I will refrain.

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Buddhist	0	0%
Catholic	7	21.21%
Christian	3	9.09%
Hindu	1	3.03%
Jewish	0	0%
Muslim	0	0%
Pagan	2	6.06%
Pantheist	1	3.03%
None of the above	4	12.12%
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09-25-2008, 07:12 PM	#1
mco Privileged Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 222 Reputation: 2887	Rapists & Victims, are you religious? I suddenly wondered, are you guys religious? Me myself, I am atheist. That does not make me feel I'm outside the bounds of rules, of course. I feel strongly about freedom and respect, for instance, and yet... having rapist fantasies. How does 'treating a woman like a slut' fit within it? I've come to the conclusion that by defining 'fantasy' and 'roleplay' it becomes constricted within a bubble. I keep surprising me in how decent man I am after all. Anyways, what about you folks?

09-26-2008, 10:56 AM	#6
Stainless Steel Rat Lord of the Labyrinth Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The Center of the Maze Posts: 397 Reputation: 68922	A reply Interesting question and would be more so still with a larger sample to draw results from. As for myself relative to your poll the only logical answer was "None of the Above". I need no church or organized religion to tell me what to think or what to believe. To try and explain my beliefs here would take far longer than I am willing to sit at a keyboard and type So I will say simply that my beliefs are a hybrid of some others. An agnostic-spiritualist I suppose would be close to my thinking in a very rudimentary way. I often contemplate who we are and the nature of our world and environment, from my musings I have formed my own thinking which provides the lens through which I view the world. There are certain elements of our humanity which are within everyone regardless of their choice of religions, how they choose to act on them is far more important than what belief system they profess to follow. Cheers all from the Stainless Steel Rat __________________ "The lost souls of the Labyrinth"

09-26-2008, 11:33 AM	#7
Ragman Privileged Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: an alley near you Posts: 2,226 Reputation: 5535	I am a Christian. I firmly believe in the pressence of God and his son Jesus Christ. As for where my fantasies fit into the whole thing. I believe that life is a gift to be enjoyed with other people who are enjoying them. I am not really hurting anyone, I am simply enjoying the fantasy. I do not believe God will have any problem with that. If i am wrong.. well..I guess I am in trouble when the end comes __________________ "Aww He's just a silly, dirty little man. What's to be afraid of ?" 2

09-26-2008, 11:54 AM	#8
Trill Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tamworth, NSW Posts: 330 Reputation: 1215	I'm Pagan, specifically Wiccan. I'm actually an ordained minister through ULC, and have formed my own church, the Claire de Lune Society of Wicca. Now, before anyone pulls me up and says "Hey, Jim, Wiccans are supposed to shun rape because it violates the core tenets of your faith!", bear in mind that rape RP, as anyone with half a brain knows, is a world away from real rape. As long as it remains a simulation in which all acts are performed consensually with a minimum of actual harm to all parties, then it's OK. If I were to rape for real, the Goddess would no doubt kick my sorry perverted ass. Last edited by Trill; 09-26-2008 at 11:57 AM. Reason: adding stuff

09-26-2008, 04:36 AM	#2
ravenbright Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 14 Reputation: 243	Atheist here. Though technically since I can't claim that I've looked at all religions to compare against my current beliefs I should say agnostic, and I usually do, but since it wasn't a choice... My basic philosophy arises from my own personal beliefs about how I perceive the world. There is no god, there is no life after death. Life's short and there is only the here and now, so we should enjoy it to our full ability as best as we can.

09-26-2008, 05:02 AM	#3
Nemo01 Privileged Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Paris France Posts: 257 Reputation: 1843	I'm Catholic (and catholic is Christian for the people who make the poll)

09-26-2008, 12:24 PM	#10
SecretObsession Passion's Playtoy Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,591 Reputation: 11692	I voted Christian. Was raised Catholic, went to parochial school for elementary and high school, started to question it's teachings in my late teens. Now I'd describe myself as spiritual, my beliefs are not specific to any one religion.

09-26-2008, 02:20 PM	#11
TZOFOSHO Hardest E-thug around Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 970 Reputation: 38545	I was raised christian, lutheran to be specific, however, a bag of mushrooms consumed while sitting on steps leading to a church when i was 16 changed all that and now i would have to vote with atheist. __________________ I'm a drunken fool...

09-27-2008, 07:08 AM	#12
lioness Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: somewhere in north america Posts: 47 Reputation: 210	Raised Catholic and also a Spiritualist. __________________ Just know that these things will never change for us at all.

09-28-2008, 05:36 AM	#13
Sternenlied Unknown Entity Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Niflheim Posts: 2,427 Reputation: 77819	I am what a friend of mine calls "a recovering Christian". I went to Catholic girl's school and was raised Catholic but I grew out of any supernatural beliefs. I consider myself a scientist, agnostic/atheist since I personally do not believe in the existence of any supernatural entity one still simply cannot - objectively speaking - neglect at least the possibility they might exist. __________________ The Life and Death of Sam Crow - How the Sons of Anarchy lost their way

09-28-2008, 07:10 AM	#15
Hugues_de_Sade Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 67 Reputation: 453	What's catholic as opposed to Christian -

09-28-2008, 01:43 PM	#20
Hoselvr6164 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 23 Reputation: 45	Pagan here as well. It would take several long (and to most - boring) paragraphs to explain exactly what I follow - so I will refrain.