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Old 03-02-2008, 04:12 AM   #101
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"Hey, i am not a referee or a judge, i'm not going to say who's right or wrong, or if she/you did well. I stated that you pissed her looking on from the effect."

I know, it's just not my problem if she's pissed off.

"No. The original statment i try to defend is: "Rape has psychological impacts as well, among other things"."

Again, I'm aware these things happen.

"You should be thanking God for being the lucky one instead of trying to convince others that its no big deal."

I'm not all that religious-y, and why shouldn't I try to convince others that its no big deal?
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:35 AM   #102
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It seems it is, you ask questions and you get no answer. Not a problem exactly, but definitely a bad handling of your audience.

Since you are aware you already know that rape is worst on its effects than robbery, so why comparing them in the first place?

Its not important if you are religious, neither am i, you got the point very well. Because their reality says that it is.
Its like going in starving kids in 3rd world and telling them: "Come on, you cant be hungry, its your idea!"
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:09 AM   #103
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Problem here seems to be the way Balishaq has her values set. For most people, their bodies are of greater value then their money. She feels her money is more valueable, an unusually materialistic way of seeing the world, even for me.
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:36 AM   #104
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"Since you are aware you already know that rape is worst on its effects than robbery, so why comparing them in the first place?"

That's not what I said.

"Its like going in starving kids in 3rd world and telling them: "Come on, you cant be hungry, its your idea!"

What? This makes very little sense, nor, if it did make sense, would it be applicable to this argument since food is a tangible, and the psychological effects from rape would not be.

"Problem here seems to be the way Balishaq has her values set. For most people, their bodies are of greater value then their money. She feels her money is more valueable, an unusually materialistic way of seeing the world, even for me."

That is so far away from what I've said that it's ridiculous.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:21 AM   #105
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"Its like going in starving kids in 3rd world and telling them: "Come on, you cant be hungry, its your idea!"

What? This makes very little sense, nor, if it did make sense, would it be applicable to this argument since food is a tangible, and the psychological effects from rape would not be.
People are flesh and soul, they suffer to spiritual problems as well. Which usually cant be solved, one can only get over them.



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That is so far away from what I've said that it's ridiculous.
Could you tell us again what you have said after all? Plain and simple, within 2-3 sentences?
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:55 PM   #106
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If the original poster was looking for a real life scene, I can't help but...
I'm still looking to get "anally raped" (I'm MALE and bi) in the London area one weekend - PM if interested
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:12 PM   #107
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Anal has always been my main interest...no idea why really, rape fantasy or just straight up normal relationship rea life with a normal girl. There IS just something about it.

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Old 03-03-2008, 11:15 PM   #108
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As stated above ... try actually reading what I wrote ... if your mind is able to comprehend it that is.
Hey.... simply because you're a moderator doesn't give you the right to go ad hominem....
let the open marketplace of ideas sort that chappie out.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:49 AM   #109
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Damn this thread has gotten weird.
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Hey.... simply because you're a moderator doesn't give you the right to go ad hominem....
let the open marketplace of ideas sort that chappie out.
I don't see Sternenlied had used any of her moderation's power in that argument,she was talking with her as a member to a member,and if you saw the way of Balishag in her argument you would know that Stern was kind with her.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:47 AM   #111
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Hey.... simply because you're a moderator doesn't give you the right to go ad hominem....
No, being a human being does.

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I don't think I did (not exclusively that is).
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:11 PM   #112
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Stern: "...if your mind is able to comprehend it that is"

wikipedia: "An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim."

This is appeal to force, another logical fallacy, by the way.

Stern: "you really don't want to find out what's it like when I actually DO attack someone."
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Old 03-08-2008, 04:42 AM   #113
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I don't think I did (not exclusively that is).
Once again: Reading and understanding is the key ...
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:27 AM   #114
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As a quiet and casual observer, it seems to me that what may perhaps be going on here is that Ms. Balishag has found a way to deal with the unfortunate incident from her past by rationalizing it in a way that is unusual, perhaps even shocking, but by no necessary means inherently wrong, or immoral.

Unless I have failed to understand her, it doesn't seem to me that she is seeking to push her admittedly, er, "unorthodox" views on others, but rather that she has found a way that works - for her - to rationalize and integrate this incident into her life. And to the extent that this is what is going on, she should be left alone with it.

I don't think that she truly thinks that the world would be a better place if the world adopted her viewpoint, but rather she simply does not want to be thought immoral for having adopted this viewpoint herself.

Having no sense of, but tremendous sympathy for, what the tragedy of rape entails, I am inclined to give its victims wide latitude in their interpretations of it.

Unless I have misunderstood her, in which case, I defer.
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:13 AM   #115
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I´ve just read this thread and I´m going to answer the first post by Emily Johnson.

If you like anal consensual sex, anal fantasy rape is great. You can let fly your imagination as you feel humiliated and degraded at the same time you feel pleasure.
When I have role played anal rape I have been insulted too, what makes me more excited. It is also a turn on get my hair pulled as I´m penetrated.
Besides, I begged for mercy too, what makes the man even more excited too. Begging and screams is a must in anal rape.
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If you like anal consensual sex, anal fantasy rape is great. You can let fly your imagination as you feel humiliated and degraded at the same time you feel pleasure.
When I have role played anal rape I have been insulted too, what makes me more excited. It is also a turn on get my hair pulled as I´m penetrated.
Besides, I begged for mercy too, what makes the man even more excited too. Begging and screams is a must in anal rape.
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You have a way with words Emily. Anal rape is very hot
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Old 05-06-2015, 04:32 PM   #118
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Well, I don't know what mess is going on here, but I have been anally raped and I think about it often. It's hands-down the most shameful and traumatizing part of my experience, yet I crave it.

Yeah, I'm hugely fucked in the head, but whatever. I want to be used in that way again, very very badly. To feel that desecrated and brutalized in that particular way all over again would be a hugely powerful turn-on. ESPECIALLY if the 'offender' knew my history in detail.

God, I'm going to hell.
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