Motionless Victim - Rape Board

Rogue · 04-12-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by z0di4c

Cut and Run

Scene 2: After she is questioned by some gang leader and didn't provide the answers he was waiting for, this sexy girl is 'given' to his bodyguard. It's a punishment because she can't stand that guy. Now she has to let him do whatever he pleases with her. Great humiliation/rape scene

http://rapidshare.com/files/105450380/cutandrun2.avi

In the video above, the victim of the rape does not move an inch. She does not moan, close her eyes, grit her teeth, turn her head, move her arm. Nothing. Which brings me to my question.

Does this do anything for you?

For me the answer is yes and no. In blackmail, it's all about the facial expressions, so some in this scene would have made it twice as good. But this wasn't actually blackmail, just endurance of the most basic kind. For whatever reason, she has to sleep with this ugly guy because she is told to.

When I first read about this scene a few years ago, then saw the movie, I thought it was a major let down. Why the fuck isn't she moving? Nowadays I appreciate the psychological aspect of rape a lot more. I like this scene for two reasons. She can't bare to look at him as he kisses her breasts and fucks her, she stares away at the same place the entire time.

Secondly, she doesn't give him the satisfaction of participating in any way. Of course, lots of struggling, beatings and bruises would make a rapist feel guilty and drive home how criminal and wrong rape is more than anything. But this is a different way. It is like she is giving him the opportunity to do the right thing and leave, by demonstrating how resentful she is of this.

Yes, the actress in this clip is doing fuck all, she deserves no credit. I'm talking about putting it into practise in a roleplay. She may be doing nothing, but I think she is trying very hard mentally, which is something. Humiliation.

z0di4c · 04-12-2008, 09:08 PM

Basically I like the humiliation stuff in movies. That started with me when I saw an Episode of Dallas where J.R. Ewing finally got a guest hottie by blackmail. (His mom's husband and good friend of the guest star was send to prison. J.R. had the evidence needed to free him but only if the hottie would give herself to J.R. She did and although on the outside she didn't show any emotion it was obvious that he had broken her).

Then again it also bothers me to hell if I read or hear something in real life has happened that way (Fran Dreschler's rape comes to mind) When she got raped in her house in the 80's, I read somewhere that she didn't make a sound. And although I admire her courage it pisses me off that somebody... anybody humiliated her like that in her own house.

Anyway, big bad wolf had a great scene where the girl is forced to give a blow job. Just so she doesn't blow her cover. Or the scene with Shannon Tweed, where she allows her husband's boss to screw her in the kitchen. It looks like they made a choice while in fact they had nothing to chose.

Maybe I should make clear that I can't watch a rape if I'm watching a complete movie. It completely knocks me off my feet. For some reason rape and adultery ruin a movie for me. But if I watch those scenes as clips only (without being to close involved with the story) they are a major turn on

willing2explore · 04-12-2008, 11:15 PM

When I watch porn I wanna know she is not enjoying it. Even movies where guys are going to town, if she looks uneffected so am I.

Ragman · 04-13-2008, 01:54 AM

In a role play.. I like feedback.. I like to know whats going on, so for me a non responsive partner would be boring and unful filling.

EdinburghRapePlay · 04-13-2008, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragman

so for me a non responsive partner would be boring and unful filling.

For me the reverse. If the partner is non-responsive it goads me to be harsher, more violent and rough.

So in many ways it is a good starting point. It gives me scope to improve the situation.

shysnale · 04-13-2008, 12:36 PM

That scene comes from the 80's movie Amazonia.
The next scene is her brother walking in and asking her how she is doing and she answers 'I AM A SLUT THAT'S ALL I AM'

I am not sure she is humiliated or hitting rock bottom.

kodavictimm · 04-13-2008, 08:30 PM

Rogue, you know the things I like as we've shared some emails over the years, but though I enjoy the motionless victim, it's a motionless not of defiance or fear, but of total unconscious helplessness... it's not their choice, it's mine.

Rogue · 04-13-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by z0di4c

Maybe I should make clear that I can't watch a rape if I'm watching a complete movie. It completely knocks me off my feet. For some reason rape and adultery ruin a movie for me. But if I watch those scenes as clips only (without being to close involved with the story) they are a major turn on

Man, I was with you all the way until this. It is the total opposite for me. I download a lot of the mainstream clips, from you included, and enjoy watching them, but sometimes I come across a good one and think to myself, I wish I had seen the whole movie, I would have been into it twice as much with some build. In fact there was one in your collection called Eaten Alive, probably the only cannibal rape scene I have yet to see. I downloaded it but I'll never watch it on it's own. The build up to rapes in cannibal movies are fantastic.

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Originally Posted by shysnale

That scene comes from the 80's movie Amazonia.
The next scene is her brother walking in and asking her how she is doing and she answers 'I AM A SLUT THAT'S ALL I AM'

I am not sure she is humiliated or hitting rock bottom.

I can't remember that part but immediately afterwards she showers and shames herself in the mirror. Anyway, I used this as an example because I never seen a woman as motionless as that in a clip, not necessarily for the story behind it.

kodavictimm · 09-01-2013, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kodavictimm

Rogue, you know the things I like as we've shared some emails over the years, but though I enjoy the motionless victim, it's a motionless not of defiance or fear, but of total unconscious helplessness... it's not their choice, it's mine.

And again folks I have lied to you. I like the pain to be real. I like my fat bitches to be so fucking scared of me that they piss themselves over and over again!

I have so much trouble controlling myself and not killing them. Oh well accidents sometimes happen...amiright?

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04-13-2008, 01:54 AM	#4
Ragman Privileged Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: an alley near you Posts: 2,226 Reputation: 5535	In a role play.. I like feedback.. I like to know whats going on, so for me a non responsive partner would be boring and unful filling. __________________ "Aww He's just a silly, dirty little man. What's to be afraid of ?" 2

04-13-2008, 08:30 PM	#7
kodavictimm Privileged Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 502 Reputation: 484	Rogue, you know the things I like as we've shared some emails over the years, but though I enjoy the motionless victim, it's a motionless not of defiance or fear, but of total unconscious helplessness... it's not their choice, it's mine. __________________ No, I don't think I will rape you, although you need raping, badly. That's what's wrong with you. You should be raped and often, and by someone who knows how.

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04-12-2008, 09:08 PM	#2
z0di4c Your Movie Library Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,393 Reputation: 39259	Basically I like the humiliation stuff in movies. That started with me when I saw an Episode of Dallas where J.R. Ewing finally got a guest hottie by blackmail. (His mom's husband and good friend of the guest star was send to prison. J.R. had the evidence needed to free him but only if the hottie would give herself to J.R. She did and although on the outside she didn't show any emotion it was obvious that he had broken her). Then again it also bothers me to hell if I read or hear something in real life has happened that way (Fran Dreschler's rape comes to mind) When she got raped in her house in the 80's, I read somewhere that she didn't make a sound. And although I admire her courage it pisses me off that somebody... anybody humiliated her like that in her own house. Anyway, big bad wolf had a great scene where the girl is forced to give a blow job. Just so she doesn't blow her cover. Or the scene with Shannon Tweed, where she allows her husband's boss to screw her in the kitchen. It looks like they made a choice while in fact they had nothing to chose. Maybe I should make clear that I can't watch a rape if I'm watching a complete movie. It completely knocks me off my feet. For some reason rape and adultery ruin a movie for me. But if I watch those scenes as clips only (without being to close involved with the story) they are a major turn on

04-12-2008, 11:15 PM	#3
willing2explore Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: canada Posts: 10 Reputation: 30	When I watch porn I wanna know she is not enjoying it. Even movies where guys are going to town, if she looks uneffected so am I.

04-13-2008, 12:36 PM	#6
shysnale Neurotic Escargot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Poker Table Posts: 2,754 Reputation: 13179	That scene comes from the 80's movie Amazonia. The next scene is her brother walking in and asking her how she is doing and she answers 'I AM A SLUT THAT'S ALL I AM' I am not sure she is humiliated or hitting rock bottom.