The Abortion Lobby
 

I think this is one of those things that has to be decided on a case by case basis. There is alsorts of convincing arguements either way. As you say, the anti-lobby are more than happy to cause all kinds of harm to abortionists and their families. But a great counter arguement is that pro-abortion campaigners have been born already.

I personally wouldn't ask a woman/girl who had been raped to carry the child to term and I think a badly disabled child would have no quality of life. But when you get to healthy babies with families around them then that needs looking at. Also the "I got myself pregnant without checking that my fella wants kids and now hes left me" situations are something where questions need asking.

I'm adopted and I know that whoever my biological mother was, she must have thought of abortion at some point. I'm pleased she didn't do that. I'm happy, healthy and I'd like to think I've made a difference in my small corner in the world. Yes or no isn't always the answer. Sometimes theres a compromise ;)

There are certain extremist elements within society whose whole philosophy are riven with hypocrisy. These militant "pro-lifers" are a prime example of this.

"So, in the end, I am pro choice....but it does not mean I am pro abortion. Some people can't see the difference."


Very good point. Something to mull over.

Their argument is “Defense Of Others”; That in killing one (the doctor), they save many others (the unborn). It is analogous to a police officer shooting a serial killer.

Keep in mind; “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” Aristotle.

seems to me that this issue is controled by the far extremes of both sides,leaving no room for moderate discussion,i'm not the most worldly or inteligent person on the board,but if your anywhere in the middle it seems to be a losing battle with either end.
just my though on the subject

I'm pro- life
 

Unless mother and child are in danger of dying or a normal life, as stated in the law. That being said, that's my opinion, just is my choice of religion, or hair color. I would never condemn someone just because I don't agree with them. But other than my first statement, I don't believe abortion is right for any reason, because there are so many other alternatives! As for violence against Dr.'s, any form of violence is wrong!

Murder is a bad thing...
 

I think it is a matter that should be between the doctor and patient.

That said, if a woman hasn't done anything until she is six months pregnant, it would take a very callous or a very desperate woman to abort. By then you are feeling the life within. There are lots of people waiting to adopt babies.

I am just very VERY glad I have never been faced with that horrible choice.

Would it be terrible of me to say that I don't really care either way...

I'de like to think you'de feel different if you had to make the choice.

HRH,

As someone who's had to deal with it 3 times in their life I can say I agree with you.
While I have always deferred to the notion that it is ultimately a womans choice (now much to my eternal regret - and blame), at some point, and definitely by the third trimester it's no longer a choice. There can be no question and how someone could do it... I

I fucking hate this topic.

Probably, but as so far I have not I do not feel it is my place to judge, it is up to the couple involved, not me or you or anyone else who are not involved with each and every case.

I know people that have had abortions, I know what they go through and the agonising they went through, and believe me HRH et el, if you had been in front of me when you could them a murderer, well lets just say your age would not protect you...THAT I do care about.

As a man, it is not my body that would have to go through everything, as a man, and this is a sad statistic, it is not my life that is effectively over through having to look after the child.

It has been said that there are always people looking for children to adopt, well sadly, there is not enough, and that number is dwindling due to the way laws are interpreted, and those are now going abroad for their children.

Let me put it this way to the anti-abortionist, what would you do personally to help the woman forced to raise a child she can't afford. And don't say "I pay my taxes which go to her" we all do, but it is you who would have her in this predicament.

Perhaps you misunderstood me, or I misunderstood you. I did not assume you were pro abortion and mean to criticize that. To this day I still support the right of choice. And I have no disagreement with what you just said. But
I thought you had sounded callous, like you had no opinion one way or the other and didn't care about the issue at all.
I was obviously mistaken.
:skull-bee

Fuck this thread.

To be honest and callous I don't care one way or another, I just get pissed off that most of the pro-life brigade seem to be male, or in a position where they do not have to bring up the child.

Sadly, Lil-Macs son is in the minority, a great deal of the women are left to 'lie in their own bed' and raise, or in some cases, drag the poor bastard up by their own.

Whether or not it is legal, people, and I mean women, will have abortions. If not by a professionally qualified person, then by 'Mrs Smith' down the back street. At least if it is legal she has a better chance of living.