I never realized this....
 

Hey everybody.
What's up?

So I was just watching this operah show right
yeh yeh... call me gay for watching operah but anyways...
it was about these obese children and stuff...
Then at one point the question came: How many of you have seriously thought about suicide or even tried to commit suicide?
Not that I'm obese or anything... but I thought... well I do think about it a little too often... with recent and old things going on in my life...
But then one of the ladies that was there said: I remember when I was a kid and obese and I thought about killing myself. It's not so much that I wanted to be dead, but that I wanted the pain to go away.

Now that kind of opened my eyes on that subject...
Cause when I think about you know... taking my own life away...
It's never cause I really want to be dead... I mean... Sure... things suck pretty bad right now... But I'm only 23 you know... there's so much stuff that I still need/want to experience... BUT!!! It would make the pain go away if I were to kill myself...
I do want to say however that I don't think I could ever kill myself...
I can't hurt all those people who care about me...
But it's still an active thought in my mind...

I was just wondering if any of you have similar feelings regarding this?

Suicide is a terrible thing. A waste of life. My late father told me,> "Son, no matter how bad things become, you can always have a wank." "Its free, Its healthy and you feel better afterwards." ...This is good advice!

Gotta find peace in LIFE not death

The fact that you recognize people in your life that would be hurt (devastated) by the act is something important in itself.

If you have important people in your life than all is not lost anyway. Perhaps getting the courage to talk to one of them about your pain might be a good step.

If suicidal thoughts are frequent enough, you need to reach out to someone.

Please.

true that!
But you get what I'm saying right?
When there is such a buildup of mostly emotional pain that continues to bother you for quiet some time... you want it to go away right... and myself... I smoke pot to kind of numb those feelings... even though they don't go away in full...
but... alot of times I do think about suicide you know...
Even though I believe myself to be strong... and that good things will come in the future...
And like I said... It's not so much about wanting to be dead... I want the pain to stop...
I was wondering if people can relate to that... :p

well... I do talk about my issues alot to friends and my mom and dad...
They help me through it :)
I can't even hold it in...
Somebody told me that I have a compulsive need to tell everything to everybody that's going on in my life...
I believe that to be a pretty fair assumption lol...

But yeh...
The thoughts always come back and I get myself through it cause like I said...
I can't hurt all those people that really care about me :)

Plus... I need to be strong... I want to live as long as I possibly can :)

Oh, I can relate. But without knowing specifics (not the place for them :skull-sai) it's hard to give advice. That has to come from someone who knows YOU and your situation...

You know, I have written three things and erased them all. I don't want to say the wrong thing, or presume that I know more than I do about the subject or you.

Best I can say without messing up is stay strong and talk to someone who specializes in this problem. Not your other issues that make you think about suicide, but a real suicide councilor.

I just don't think the answer is on RB.

Personally, I keep it life fairly simple :

To live, To learn, To love, and To leave a legacy - that just means constant self-improvement, knowing I am cared for, and have an aim in life.

And I motivate myself with the life basics - Food, Sex, Money, Power. - amazing what pizza and beer does to ya sometimes :) and the rest you just have to imagine or listen to your father'd advice :D

Of course easier said than done, and life comes in waves.

I'm a pretty hard guy to offend...
I'm very curious to what people think :)
So whatever you wanted to say just say it...
And it's not so much about me and that i'm having a hard time...
and also not about finding answers... i'm curious to know if anyone has the same experience you know... is it that you really want to die when you think about it...
or is it that you don't know how else to express your pain and feelings?
that's pretty much my question... :)

and don't worry about me... I'll be fine like always ^^

Man you know in the past I've been all depressed and shit and thought it'd be better if I was dead. Not even in a whoa is me type of way either, just a plain practical thought process. However these days rather than just shoot myself i'd rather kill a bunch of people I didn't like and preferably take out a bunch of cops while i was at it too, then kill myself so they wouldn't have the satisfaction of doing it themselves and since I'm to handsome to go to jail.

Ha - it's not about offending. It's about me shooting my mouth off and saying the absolute wrong thing.

I think the common answer is not a wish for DEATH. but an end to PAIN - so yeah that would probably be normal suicidal motivation...

Personally - I am very curious about death and what comes after. I am not afraid of death - it comes to everyone. But the curiosity isn't a motivating factor in any suicidal thoughts I have had.

well... if you don't want to say it publicly you can always just pm me lol
Your making me very curious as to what those 3 things would be...

I am somewhat curious about what happens after your dead... but that'd be a whole different discussion so I am not really gonna debate it at this time in this thread ;)

These are wise words :D
Those are my ideals too pretty much...
It's indeed easier said then done sometimes
And it's nice to be reminded of these ideals every once in a while ;)

so thank you :)

you could be my angel then ;)
But don't be suprised if i turn on you and return the favor of 'raping' your ass lol

Very nicely phrased, My Angel. You're learning to be seductive. :o

right ... angels with strapons ... yeah ... so seductive and MALE!

besides, to people who have near death experiences - they are called NURSES and they TAKING YOUR TEMPERATURE!

that's why we hire parisa anyway, for her temperature checking skills :D

Patient: Are you sure?

Parisa: Yes - it's right here on the chart, Sir. See? Take temperature anally 100 times per minute for 20 minutes...

it always seems that people go off topic in my threads pretty quickly... and then it dies o.O lol

ahh well... *sigh* :)

LOL - nothing profound, just well meaning advice that may not have applied to you.

Not just your thread - threadjacking must be a close kin to Rape - everyone wants to put their own kink in around here. :D

Seriously back on topic - what I was going to write...

1) Point out that if you have made an attempt at suicide that is more serious than persistent thoughts... But if you feel compelled to answer that is prying and this is not the place for details... If you have not, maybe you are depressed right now and see that as a dare so you will be taken more seriously... So I erased that one.

2) Say that I have had thoughts about suicide at different times in my life and that it may be considered normal in some ways... But I'm not an expert, so what do I know... You may not believe me, I could post anything... Don't want to encourage these thoughts and have you dwell on them... So I erased that one.

3) Cliched advice on waiting till things seem better or your life will turn around... No one wants to hear that shit, either... Sounds condescending and dismissive... So I erased that one.

But again, I think the best advice for you tonight is that RB will not answer your questions... :skull-sai :skull-sai :skull-sai